Posted on 09/15/2020 6:05:57 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
Frank Lloyd Wright originally proposed The Mile-High Illinois in the 1950s. Innovations in construction materials and elevators are necessary to reach the one mile height and beyond. We may see the first mile-high skyscraper by the middle of the 21st century.
The undefeated champion of the skies right now is the Burj Khalifa in Dubai, which stands at 2,717 feet (roughly half a mile) and is the tallest building in the world.
Although take that with a grain of dusty salt—only 1,916 feet of the Burj Dubai is occupiable space, the rest is vanity height, meaning nearly 800 feet is non-occupiable space. That represents 29 percent of the building's
There are three major construction and stability aspects that must be dealt with if we're to reach a vertical mile. Those are:
Dampening wind sway
Elevator speed and length
Construction materials
(Excerpt) Read more at bigthink.com ...
Couldn’t get me in it.
But fun to read about.
I did see a demonstration of an elevator that had the ability to move up and down and left and right by riding rails. So it is technically feasible to have elevators that don’t need cables.
Being a demonstration, I don’t know how close to commercialization it was.
Just take Mt. Everest....
Dig out floors and rooms inside the mountain...
And call it a building.
(Whoever takes up my idea, will owe me royalties. I’ll collect in a few hundred years, after it’s finished).
Easy to keep virus out.
Just take Mt. Everest....
Dig out floors and rooms inside the mountain...
And using that famous cheap Chinese labor!
With China owning half the mountain and all...
They will take the lion’s share.
Building a mile high expanding on Wright's observations would solve the elevator problem too. Elevators go up the first 30 floods then the building 'branches out'... allowing more creative ways to move people. Copying Disney original 'people movers' from EPCOT would move lots of people easily...a tree design also solves much of the balance problems.
Imitating a banyon tree - or many banyon trees and you've got a strong interconnected city in the sky. The Edison Winter House has a 400 foot banyon... a great tree to copy. That said, these types of buildings make more sense for places like the moon, Mars, etc.
Edison and Ford Winter Estates - Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edison_and_Ford_Winter_Estates
I guess.
I would rather the world's most extensive botanical gardens. Useful, beautiful, attracting research and tourism to my country. Make sure my name was remembered for generations.
Probably cheaper as well.
Means I could have that really fast car too. :)
If you were in Denver, yes.
Build 5 story building and your over a mile!!
Just takes one airplane to take it out.
Just takes one airplane to take it out.
A sad, sad truth.
“Is it possible to build a mile-high skyscraper?”
sure. just build it in Denver: after the first story you’re there ...
Dr. Robert Forward of Hughes Research developed the concept of dynamic support to build large structures. A linear magnetic accelerator acting upon a stream of mass provides a force-counterforce arrangement, along Newton’s motion law. This applies whether adding or subtracting velocity to the mass flow, the direction of the reaction force flipping positive or negative.
This provides for a circumvention of materials strength requirements. A structure can be built in which support is supplied along distributed points, by adding or subtracting momentum of a high velocity matter flow by electromagnetic manipulation. Obviously, electrical energy can be stored or extracted from the kinetic energy of a ferromagnetic mass flow. This exchange inherently involves the application of force to accomplish the transformation of one for another.
Star Trek—-“The turbolift, or turbo-elevator, was a device that provided rapid transport with both vertical and horizontal transportation for personnel through a system of turboshafts between key sections of starships and space stations.”—Memory Alpha
The Germans are already working upon implementing this for real transport about a building.
https://www.asme.org/topics-resources/content/elevating-the-future
https://www.thyssenkrupp-elevator.com/en/products-and-service/multi/
because trees have more sense than some people
A ten story one mile square food farm would be better use of space. Face it, what jobs are people gonna do in those buildings that they can’t do out of them? Lawyers? financial institutions? Sleeper dorms? Restaurants? Publishing house offices? Think mildew control. Roach infestation. Earthquakes. Lightning strikes. Riots. Parking? Delivery ports? Norovirus. Cute design exercise however.
Perfect links. Thanks. That is pretty much what I was thinking. Linear motors are terrific.
I call these projects kind of buildings a symbol of owner & architect architectural penis envy, and nothing mote.
If you are interested in elevators...
You will enjoy this article.
An interesting read for most:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/04/21/up-and-then-down
THE ROPE FREE ELEVATOR...
Cool stuff!
But would you want to live in a high rise apartment with one as your primary egress?
Way back when as a trainee I’d ask why not use the latest cool stuff?
Some senior crusty old guy would say “it hasn’t been proven”.
I’d mention, it has been approved Europe for years and many US states?
He would politely explain that proven and approved are not the same, and he was not going to put his name on it.
For example.
My wife and I have installed about a mile(feels like it) of O2 barrier PEX tubing for floor heat in our hundred-year-old house.
This product was widely used in Europe and Korea in the 1960s... some years later many failures.
They may have overlooked oxygen diffusion.
BIG PROBLEMS!
Then they added the oxygen barrier.
I hope it works because if not, my house would become a frozen teardown.
TRUE!
Not wanting to state the obvious...
See#59
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