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600-year-old axe heads used in hand-to-hand fighting in Battle of Grunwald found in field
The First News ^ | August 31, 2020 | Stuart Dowell

Posted on 08/31/2020 6:41:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Two battle axes used in hand-to-hand fighting at the Battle of Grunwald over 600 years ago have been found by detectorists during a sweep of the famous battle site in northern Poland.

The find, which has astonished archaeologists, is all the more important as the melee weapons are in remarkably good condition.

According to Dr. Szymon Dreja, director of the Museum of the Battle of Grunwald, the discovery of the battle axes are an archaeological sensation.

"In seven years of our archaeological research we have never had such an exciting, important and well-preserved find," he stressed.

According to the director, there is little doubt that the axes come from what many historians say was the largest battle of the middle ages in Europe.

"The context of these finds, the preliminary dating to the fifteenth century and the type of axes clearly indicate that they are directly related to the Battle of Grunwald of July 15, 1410," he said.

The Battle of Grunwald was fought in 1410 and saw the joint forces of Poland and Lithuania defeat the Knights of the Teutonic Order.

Over 50,000 knights, gunners and infantry clashed on the fields near the village of Grunwald in what was possibly the biggest battle of medieval Europe.

The battle marked the end of the order's expansion along the south-eastern coast of the Baltic Sea and the beginning of the decline of its power. It also marked the emergence of Poland-Lithuania as one of Europe's most powerful states.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: battleofgrunwald; europe; godsgravesglyphs; grunwald; lithuania; middleages; poland; renaissance; teutonicorder
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To: SunkenCiv
This post is about battle axes?


21 posted on 08/31/2020 8:28:57 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
:^) Nice!

22 posted on 08/31/2020 9:32:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; SunkenCiv

The battle of Grunwald or in German, Tannenburg, was a pivotal moment in the development of the Polish state. It is eulogized even today and made into a grand Slav vs Teutons story, which it wasn’t quite.

It cemented the Lithuanian(which contained most of modern Belarus as well) Polish commonwealth that lasted until 1793.

Your ancestors may very well have been on BOTH sides of the battle!


23 posted on 08/31/2020 9:49:27 PM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: SunkenCiv

I suspect it did not end well for the 2 guys who were using the axes.....


24 posted on 08/31/2020 9:57:41 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (homeless guy. He just has more money....He the master will plant more cotton for the democrat party)
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To: Cronos; ProtectOurFreedom
Your ancestors may very well have been on BOTH sides of the battle!
Heh... that's one of the risks ya take, just by bein' born. :^) It's probably true of many, many battles throughout the ages, including currently unknown prehistoric ones.

25 posted on 08/31/2020 10:21:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: minnesota_bound
Battles in the Middle Ages were up close and personal. The winners didn't necessarily come off much better than the losers, just alive.

26 posted on 08/31/2020 10:22:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: rfreedom4u

They have been mostly peaceful for hundred of years.


27 posted on 08/31/2020 11:28:13 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: jerod

Cool :D


28 posted on 09/01/2020 12:17:59 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: SunkenCiv

your welcome!


29 posted on 09/01/2020 12:49:35 AM PDT by txnativegop (The political left, Mankinds intellectual and political hemlock)
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To: SunkenCiv; jerod
Apparently cast iron. If they were bronze, I'd expect dissimilar metal corrosion to have consumed the iron crosspins. (BTW, those cross-pin holes look square, to me -- and, there's some sort of discontinuity where the axe poll joins the closed socket...)

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I recall a (GGG?) article on a cache of similar-appearing bronze axe heads -- most/all of which were broken -- supposedly collected for re-casting. IIRC, by far the weakest points (sites of the breaks) were the sockets -- and, of those, the closed-end sockets were the weakest.

I believe one of the theories for the weakness was that it was difficult to get a close fit of the wooden haft in the closed-end socket -- causing local force concentrations (where the wood did fit tightly) -- that resulted in socket breakage...

Do you remember that article/discussion?

TXnMA   
  

30 posted on 09/01/2020 2:35:32 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Deep State" = "Democrat Party + Traitorous Republicans" -- it's that simple...)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I once had a boarding pass checked for Gdansk Poland and the Lufthansa clerk replied with a cold steel gaze: “DAAN-TSIHKH” (Danzig). No doubt in his mind the borders there have not been forgotten and resentment is deep.


31 posted on 09/01/2020 3:15:49 AM PDT by epluribus_2 (He, had the best mom - ever.)
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To: epluribus_2

It was German from its founding around 1200 until 1945.


32 posted on 09/01/2020 6:25:56 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("And oft conducted by historic truth, We tread the long extent of backward time.")
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To: TXnMA

That does sound familiar, didn’t turn it up in a search. Here’s something that’s basicaly unrelated, from 2011, well, technically it’s from more than 3000 years ago...

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/tollensevalley/index


33 posted on 09/01/2020 7:20:45 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: jerod; SunkenCiv; Inyo-Mono; rlmorel; Cronos

Valaška - Shepherd's Axe
Sharp Blades

In Eastern Europe mostly Carpathian region, axe used by shepherd for self defense. Very Common in the mountains even today.

34 posted on 09/01/2020 12:46:28 PM PDT by NachOsten
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To: NachOsten

That is too cool!


35 posted on 09/01/2020 12:56:33 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies"- George Orwell)
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To: rlmorel
Check this out.
Valašky by region in Slovakia

It's in Slovak, however richly illustrated.

36 posted on 09/01/2020 1:10:31 PM PDT by NachOsten
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To: NachOsten

That is a great website! Those axes just itch to be collected.

I am into 3D printing, I may try to print some of those and find a way to paint them that looks right...


37 posted on 09/01/2020 1:27:20 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies"- George Orwell)
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To: rlmorel
These are some designs the use even for the handle. Some axes are all wood as a walking stick


38 posted on 09/01/2020 3:42:39 PM PDT by NachOsten
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To: NachOsten
Very cool! When I make the handle, I will be sure to use these patterns...

I may use a magnifying glass on a hot day to burn them in, as I did this for my wife:


39 posted on 09/01/2020 4:48:45 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies"- George Orwell)
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To: NachOsten

Nice!


40 posted on 09/01/2020 5:33:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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