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Cruise operators took a deep bruising from COVID-19, but history says they will recover
MSM ^ | Aug. 28, 2020 | Tom Kilgore

Posted on 08/28/2020 2:13:48 PM PDT by Capt. Tom

The cruise industry was among the industries rocked hardest by the COVID-19 pandemic, with many fearing the virus could leave a permanent bruise on a sector with a history of onboard illness outbreaks. But it’s exactly that history that suggests this time won’t be different, and cruising will eventually flourish again.

This difficulty in running the business can be viewed as a positive, because it raises the barriers to entry. But more important, like the hotel industry, cruising satisfies a couple of basic human wants, to be social and to get away, and it does both at the same time. This not only encourages customers to forget outbreaks, it also makes them very loyal.

Although an element of fear will likely drive down bookings for future cruises in the near term, given uncertainties over the duration of long-term effects of the COVID-19 virus, “that will pass,” Lang said. “People will tend to forget about it. It’s a time-limited phenomenon on cruises.”

What makes the cruise industry different that others in the travel business, is that the U.S. government’s Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has direct control over when ships can set sail.

Last month, the CDC announced the extension of its “No Sail Order” through Sept. 30. But that doesn’t mean cruises will depart the day after.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Outdoors; Travel
KEYWORDS: cruiselines
An optimistic view of the future of cruising.

A long article, but I feel the recovery will take years.

What do you think? -Tom

1 posted on 08/28/2020 2:13:48 PM PDT by Capt. Tom
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Frankly, I don’t see cruise ships being an issue; there’s no particular reason they have to be more risky, and they probably were NOT more risky, you just need to take precautions.

And if a cruise line goes bankrupt, someone will buy it out, a bunch of investors will lose money, but the cruise ships will be back out sailing.


2 posted on 08/28/2020 2:19:09 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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Until COVID-19 mitigation efforts through a really effective vaccine become widely available, expect many cruise lines to put their ships into mothballs for years to come. I wouldn’t be surprised that the likes of Royal Caribbean and Carnival start scrapping a lot of older ships over the next three years.


3 posted on 08/28/2020 2:20:30 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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Carnival already scrapped 13 ships


4 posted on 08/28/2020 2:22:10 PM PDT by Fai Mao (There is no justice until The PIAPS is legally executed)
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To: Capt. Tom

I dunno. The cruise industry was having lots of problems with ships coming into port with lots of sick passengers WELL BEFORE Covid-19. These floating super-hotels appear to have massive sanitation problems — particularly in food services.


5 posted on 08/28/2020 2:27:18 PM PDT by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: RayChuang88
"Until COVID-19 mitigation efforts through a really effective vaccine become widely available, expect many cruise lines to put their ships into mothballs for years to come."

Probably so, but I hang my hopes on effective therapeutic treatments before vaccines.

6 posted on 08/28/2020 2:30:33 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamo nauseated. Also LGBTQxyz nauseated)
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To: CharlesWayneCT; gibsonguy; NormsRevenge; Chgogal; Ann Archy; dennisw; entropy12; Captain Walker; ...
And if a cruise line goes bankrupt, someone will buy it out, a bunch of investors will lose money, but the cruise ships will be back out sailing.

Some of the potential buyers and loaners might get cold feet and remember the old adage : "If you want to make a small fortune in certain businesses, like Cruising, start off with a large fortune."

Time will tell. - Tom

7 posted on 08/28/2020 2:35:14 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (It's 2020 - The Events are now in charge. -Tom)
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Wish I knew when we can cruise again. I think this extending the ban by a month or two every month or two can go on for years.

I’m certainly grateful for the dozen or so past cruises and hope for a few more.


8 posted on 08/28/2020 2:42:25 PM PDT by nicepaco
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Wish I knew when we can cruise again. I think this extending the ban by a month or two every month or two can go on for years.

Royal Caribbean Chief Executive Richard Fain feels your pain

"Now, since the crisis began, we extended our suspension of operations seven times, now through Oct. 31 for most voyages,” said Royal Caribbean Chief Executive Richard Fain in a call with analysts on Aug. 10. “But it’s fair to say there is still a lot of uncertainty.”

9 posted on 08/28/2020 2:51:41 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (It's 2020 - The Events are now in charge. -Tom)
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Its not Sept...its till the end of Oct ...


10 posted on 08/28/2020 3:01:35 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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Its not Sept...its till the end of Oct ...

The CDC has allowed late comments to come in, and by the time the CCDC assesses them the shutdown will be beyond Sept. 30th. -Tom

The Centers for Disease Control has extended its No Sail Order for cruise ships once again. The order now prevents ships from sailing through September 30, 2020.

11 posted on 08/28/2020 3:19:40 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (It's 2020 - The Events are now in charge. -Tom)
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I’ve known numerous folks who have gone for cruises and have said they enjoyed them. I’m not motivated on going on one, as I can stay at home and read a book and raid my fridge without it costing me the price of a cruise. I like history and might consider a cruise in the Med visiting historic ports, but no in the Caribbean. And I don’t want to take a chance of the ship I’m on disappearing into the Bermuda Triangle.


12 posted on 08/28/2020 3:47:47 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: RayChuang88

Simple solution to the pandemic,,,,Make HCQ and Azithromycin OTC drugs so anyone who develops a cough and/or fever can go the nearest drug store and self medicate with the drugs along with Zinc Sulfate with correct dosage within 48 hours of symptoms and pandemic over.,,,,,instead of waiting a few days to get tested and 5 days for the results,,,,if over 60 years of age,,,,you’re dead.


13 posted on 08/28/2020 4:21:42 PM PDT by chopperk (L)
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To: Capt. Tom

We are still GO for the Trump 2020 Victory Cruise embarking from Port Everglades on December 6.


14 posted on 08/28/2020 4:52:45 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (I Need Joe Biden to Unmask Me So I Don't Have to Wear Them)
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Why can’t they just test passengers and crew before they board?


15 posted on 08/28/2020 4:57:43 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Capt. Tom

I have known a whole lot of people who recovered from the many bumps in life’s road . . . until they didn’t.

I’m really bad at predicting the future, but it’s possible that this most recent bump will be too big for the cruise industry. It’s also possible that the public has the attention span of a gnat and will happily go back to cruising with Norovirus as soon as Corona goes back to just being a cheap beer.


16 posted on 08/28/2020 5:15:46 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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I’m really bad at predicting the future, but it’s possible that this most recent bump will be too big for the cruise industry. It’s also possible that the public has the attention span of a gnat and will happily go back to cruising with Norovirus as soon as Corona goes back to just being a cheap beer.

I think Dr. Lang would agree with you. -Tom

Dr. William Lang, chief medical officer of WorldClinic and former director of the White House Medical Unit said it’s important to separate the cruise industry from the rest of the travel industry during the current COVID crisis. A cruise ship is “substantially different” than a dry land environment, he said.

Add to that the possibility of being trapped at sea, if another onboard outbreak occurs. But that hasn’t stopped people from taking cruises after disease outbreaks in the past.

“What has been demonstrated time and time again, from various outbreaks and epidemics, is that people have a short memory,” Lang told MarketWatch.

17 posted on 08/28/2020 5:29:57 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (It's 2020 - The Events are now in charge. -Tom)
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We are still GO for the Trump 2020 Victory Cruise embarking from Port Everglades on December 6.

At least the months of October and November are between the present CDC cruise shutdown the end of September and the Trump Victory Cruise trip in early December.

Things will change one way or the other after the election, and I hope it won't impact the Trump Victory Cruise. - Tom

18 posted on 08/29/2020 12:40:21 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (It's 2020 - The Events are now in charge. -Tom)
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We better not get cancelled. As my wife could attest, I've been talking about that Trump 2020 Victory Cruise constantly. I can almost taste the smoked salmon I will be eating at every breakfast washed down with copious quantities of Randi Rhodes (Ketel One and tomato juice with lots of olives). Also I am making up a list of beers, wines, and hard liquor I will be consuming with my drink package upgrade. Hopefully there will Japanese beer available since I recently got back into that.

My motto for the cruise will be "NOT a Sober Moment!!!"

19 posted on 08/29/2020 3:28:09 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (I Need Joe Biden to Unmask Me So I Don't Have to Wear Them)
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