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I've heard that masks also help with the tear gas.
1 posted on 07/19/2020 5:30:17 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Are they still referring to them as “mostly peaceful protests” ?


2 posted on 07/19/2020 5:31:48 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrats' John Dean])
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To: Libloather

First, if The Patriot Act is invoked, all bets are off, in the field of habeas corpus. They can do anything.
Second. I remind you when GWB signed The Military Commisssions Act of 2996, which is predicated that it stipulates all citizens are afforded status as a suspect of a forthcoming crime.
Now, with that said, I don’t mind antifa thugs being swept off the street, but only those identified as antifa.


3 posted on 07/19/2020 5:36:51 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Libloather
Our effing mayor says we don't want or need DHS - yeah...after almost 2 months night after night of destruction. Jo Ann Hardesty (look her up..yikes) a city commissioner I think is a communist. The AG has filed suit to send DHS home. Our governor is a POTUS hating rat.

They're destroying our city.

4 posted on 07/19/2020 5:38:50 PM PDT by Aria
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To: Libloather

I’ve heard 7.62mm clears a mask most efficiently.


5 posted on 07/19/2020 5:40:07 PM PDT by ImpBill ("America, Where are you now?")
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To: Libloather

>>What’s going on in Portland is somewhere between riot and insurrection

To deny it is insurrection is to deny reality.


7 posted on 07/19/2020 5:53:29 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: Libloather

As far as I am concerned, what is going on in Portlandia is inner-squad practice. The fascist team knows the police are ordered to put up only token resistance. The risk of getting arrested in minimal and even if arrested, the charges will be dropped by the Soros DA.

Don’t kid yourself about what you are seeing. What you are should be looking at is not the fat, ugly, white chicks and soy boys. Those are expendable cannon-fodder - maybe a few will make it to the real team.

What is being practiced in the chaos is logistics, medics, communications, command and control, and especially training of “lieutenants” and “captains”. Letting them function night after night in chaos, dealing with changing situations, worrying about logistics, communications, tactics. I would not be surprised if they are rotating in and out various leaders to have them get experience, and then a debrief each day getting them ready for the following night.

This is not the “varsity team”, this is not even the “junior varsity team”. This is simply the practice squad working on training the support, logistics, and leadership.

If they eventually capture the flag (Federal building), great, but that is not the point of this nightly riot. It is live action training of their leaders and organization.


10 posted on 07/19/2020 5:59:50 PM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: Libloather

“I’ve heard that masks also help with the tear gas.”

The eyes.


12 posted on 07/19/2020 6:05:08 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Libloather

Pelosi “accusing the Feds of creating a banana republic” and using “storm troopers” -

I imagine if this were going on across the street from her house in San Francisco, she’d be calling for “storm troopers” all right.


16 posted on 07/19/2020 6:11:16 PM PDT by RAldrich
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17 posted on 07/19/2020 6:18:13 PM PDT by goodnesswins (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution." -- Saul Alinksy)
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To: Libloather

Riots burn out in a few hours or a few days. This is an insurrection. These people need to be put down like rabid dogs.


21 posted on 07/19/2020 6:19:37 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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antifa morons defeated by the feds, attack a softer target.

PORTLAND, Ore. — Protesters gathered in both downtown Portland and on Portland’s east side near the PPB North Precinct building, Portland Police said on Saturday.

Police say a group of people gathered about the building and interfered with operations of the police facility. By 9:30, they say they advised the crowd to leave to the west. That’s when PPB says the crowd walked two miles to the Portland Police Association (PPA) office.

After 10:30 p.m., people broke into the building and a fire was set inside.

more at:

https://katu.com/news/local/riot-declared-in-ne-portland-after-building-set-on-fire-ppb-says


22 posted on 07/19/2020 6:21:09 PM PDT by chief lee runamok
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"What’s going on in Portland is somewhere between riot and insurrection, and demands a strong federal response even if local officials are in denial."

In denial? They're part of the problem!

23 posted on 07/19/2020 6:25:04 PM PDT by Savage Beast (President Trump, loving God, America, and the American People, is on the Side of love the Angels!)
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To: Libloather
"I've heard that masks also help with the tear gas."

Not surgical masks. They don't offer any protection from tear gas or pepper spray. In fact, any irritant that got under the mask would create an even bigger problem, because most of these irritants are stimulated by body heat, and it's warmer under that mask than your skin that's exposed to air. We had yearly training in CS and CN gas use. You were advised if you wore contacts, to take them out before being exposed to the gas, because it can get under the contacts and burn or blister. If you were exposed to gas, you were told to keep your eyes open and let them tear, and that is very hard to do, despite the fact that you know it should be done. We were told not to rub our eyes, but that's the first thing you want to do. Flushing the eyes with water helps, but it doesn't get rid of it totally, and your clothes absorbed the stuff, and if you didn't remove your clothing, and get rid of it, those gas particles on your clothing could start the effect all over again.

24 posted on 07/19/2020 6:27:54 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: Libloather

Later.


33 posted on 07/19/2020 9:39:50 PM PDT by wjcsux (Inside every DemocRAT politician is a fascist dictator screaming to be let loose.)
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35 posted on 07/19/2020 9:48:34 PM PDT by bitt (Let justice be done though the heavens fall - Fiat justitia ruat caelum)
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To: Libloather

I believe the Deep State needs the optics of uncontrolled unrest and/or police brutality - even if they have to fake both.

I believe they are demanding Trump respond sufficiently for them to declare police brutality/storm troopers abusing the public. It doesn’t have to be true - there just have to be photos and assertions by Nancy and her choir.

It’s the DS attempt to portray the federal government as incapable when they are NOT responding, and bloodthirsty brownshirts when the Feds ARE responding.

They want to bait Trump into the zone to use him as a prop to declare a constitutional crisis because the governor does NOT want Trump there.

They keep doing this - they want the pity and support of the U.N. Americans are their secondary audience - they are actually playing to our enemies in the U.N.


37 posted on 07/19/2020 10:19:05 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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” Does the situation really require unmarked vehicles, and officers working without visible shield numbers or other clear ID or even uniforms?”

What is with this issue of ‘unmarked cars’ crap come from? THC-driven paranoia? Seriously. If two fed agents come up to me with determination in their eye, the last thing I’m thinking of is what vehicle they have.

There has never been a requirement that federal agents travel in marked vehicles any more than a bounty hunter has to mark his vehicle.

Other than being marked clearly as ‘police’, and/or a unit identifier patch, they don’t wear ID visible to the public for obvious security reasons. They deal with really evil people. Like Evil, evil. Criminals who would love to find out who nabbed them and where their families live.

To be noted, several obsessive-compulsive antifa types have taken it upon themselves to built databases of officers names, badge numbers, license plates, photos of vehicles, wives and the officers, and have followed them home to get their address and that of their wives’ employment and their kids schools so they can continue their vandalism and harassment. Yes, people are mentally devious enough to do this. (hanging out on twitter has been quite educational)

Feds also don’t have to wear dress uniforms to chase juvenile delinquents. It would cost a fortune to keep separate leo branches in unique uniforms and hard to tell who’s who in joint exercises. Fatigues are multi-purpose, cheap, easy to recognize and easily replaceable.


39 posted on 07/20/2020 2:41:14 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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Does the situation really require unmarked vehicles, and officers working without visible shield numbers or other clear ID or even uniforms? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Does a bear sh*t in the woods?

The real problems are twofold:

1) China, Iran and Russia would love to offload a few container loads of AK-47s and supporting military ordinance to the Portland anarchists, they are likely already advising these Portland anarchists as well. Their persistence is indicat9ive of external organization and advice.

2) If the local law enforcement is ham strung and the federal BORTAC does not act to defeat these amarchists and subjugate them, patriotic Americans of Oregon will organize and go in to Portland and clear them out, then it will be civil war.

For both of these reasons, President Trump has to act under federal legislation to secure the City of Portland. He should hot then very hard and fast, no pushiong and pulling, send in enopugh force to take them down an d incarcerate them immediately.

If a few get bruised so be it.

If some resort to arms, kill them without hesitation.

This is not about freedom of speech. They just want to destroy Portland, and federal buildings there.

Its insurrection. Plain and simple.

After clearing Portland, the Mayor there needs to be charged with criminal conspiracy to destroy public and private property and conspiracy to commit arson. He needs to be federally indicted for acting under color of law to violate the civil rights of the citizens of Portland, and Police Officers.


42 posted on 07/20/2020 5:12:27 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama Fascism:http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Libloather

https://twitter.com/ShelbyTalcott/status/1285077297326813184

video


43 posted on 07/20/2020 8:14:41 AM PDT by bitt (Let justice be done though the heavens fall - Fiat justitia ruat caelum)
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