"You....got what I need......but you say he just a friend...."
Posted on 07/03/2020 7:17:51 AM PDT by Stravinsky
Twitter users are debating whether or not Beethoven was black after a blog post about the subject resurfaced online.
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In the post on The Concordian, the author said: "I am no Beethoven expert, but bringing up this topic is important. While getting to the bottom of the truth about Beethoven's race will change nothing about the supreme quality of his music, it will open up dialogue about the massive effects of European colonialism that promote racism still today.
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However, there is no evidence of Beethoven's race aside from portraits that suggest that he was white, and the blog post merely offers up speculation. The conspiracy theory that Beethoven was black "is not based on genealogical studies of Beethoven's past," according to the Beethoven Center at San Jose State University, but rather "is based on the assumption that one of Beethoven's ancestors had a child out of wedlock."
The Beethoven Center adds: "It is important to note that no one called Beethoven black or a moor during his lifetime, and the Viennese were keenly aware both of Moors and of mulattos, such as George Bridgetower, the famous violinist who collaborated with Beethoven."
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Despite this, many Twitter users began sharing The Concordian story on Thursday.
One Twitter user said: "White historians continue to prove how gross they are, they literally tried to paint one of the best-known musicians as a caucasian and made us believe for years that he was white when Beethoven was black... White people tryna whitewash history again."
A Twitter user shared a TikTok imagining what listening to new music in the 1800s would have been like and said: "This is funnier now that we know that Beethoven is black."
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I thought Sharpton said he was a "Greek homo".
What a piece of crock and infuriatingly revisionist history, especially this year, in the 250th anniversary of his birth.
If Beethoven were black his name would have been LeBron instead of Ludwig.
Is the Pope Chatholic?
It’s right there in the lyrics of Beethoven’s Ninth: Alle Menschen werden Brüder = All men become brothers. Not only was he black, he was trying to turn everyone into one of the brothers. And Beethoven’s unpublished Tenth Symphony is based on my poem Ode to Sarcasm.
Yes. This Beethoven was black thing has been around decades.
They colonized, enslaved, rape and terrorized Europe for 800 years before Europeans threw them out.
Why is that ignored?
I guess it's racist to bring it up.
are they trying to figure out whether they are going to cancel Whitey Beethoven?
this guy doing some kind of dance style to it
https://twitter.com/KarloInTheEnds/status/1273701819349372928
dont know if the music came later or if he was really dancing to it
"You....got what I need......but you say he just a friend...."
Man, from the arguments you laid out, Jonas Kaufmann (probably the most famous operatic tenor at the moment) better watch out. He’s a German like Beethoven, but he also has dark curly hair that he sometimes allows to get bushy, brown eyes, and olive skin. Not just that, he’s sung in the opera Carmen, which has African rhythms! And he starred in “black” composer Beethoven’s only opera, Fidelio! The proof is overwhelming!
Bet he’d be surprised to find out by the criteria of Afro-centric “scholars” he’s a black man. Who knew millions of whites are really blacks!
Black Lies Matter
Jeeeeez! They never learn. This started on 4chan as a joke. Time and time, again, they fall for it. SMH.
The Peanuts cartoon I referenced was from over 50 years ago, it’s not new.
“Bohemian Rap City”.
Pushkin was 1/8 black, 7/8 white. Only one of his 8 great-grandparents was non-European. He was certainly mixed race, but it seems like a stretch to call him black. At least there’s actual legitimate evidence for that claim, though, as there is for Dumas, pere and fils, unlike for Beethoven.
Now that we're all woke, time to roll over Beethoven!
Every time you think these fools have reached the absolute limits of stupidity they prove you wrong.
Dennis Hopper?
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