[TXnMA]

Appears the photo NASCAR released is not the same knot as is shown in the videos taken earlier.
Did they [NASCAR] just post a FAKE photo?"

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I've been analyzing all the available photos of the "noose" -- and something is fake!

1. The "Official NASCAR Noose" is of a properly-tied "'7 wraps' Hangman's Knot" -- but...

2. ...it appears somewhat sharper & closer than its surroundings -- yet the background is in focus. (PS "PASTE job?)

3. ...the rope is nice new and clean -- no "dirt" from being pulled repeatedly by the grimy hands of racing mechanics.

4. ...the knot is totally unlike the simpler knots shown in three other photos.

5. ...and, most damning, the adjacent doorpost is a different color from the distinctive red [&white & blue] paint scheme shown in other photos. (I "super-saturated" the color in the photo, and there's not a trace of red -- whereas other red objects look "right". Also, the doorframes across the drive are the same black/gray color scheme...)

6. ... An actual "Hangman's Noose knot" would be a lousy choice for a door pull: when pulled hard enough to pull an overhead door down against the force of the heavy "boost-assist" springs -- The loop would tighten around your hand -- and (by design) be difficult to loosen!

7. ...the loops on simple "Overhand-on-a-bight" or "Figure-Eight-on-a-bight" knots -- as shown in the other three photos -- have a fixed-size loop, and would not "trap" your hand, yet could be "hooked" and pulled down if out of reach.

(Possibly a different location and rope/knot...)

BOTTOM LINE: It appears that someone(s) is/are lying to us!

(IMHO, of course...)

Former Scout and Scouter/Survival Skills and Knot-tying Instructor
TXnMA    
  

[stylin19a]

my understanding is the one with the silverado in it is from someplace else and from 2017.
That door pull loop is too low for it to have any leverage to close the door.

[ptsal]

This is another lie.

The merit badge for knots will be updated soon at the TransScout website.

[bigbob]

OF COURSE they are lying to us, it’s all they do.
It’s a HOAX. Let it go.

[Cats Pajamas]

https://mobile.twitter.com/tribunal_watch

Scroll it baby.

[Steven W.]

NASCAR is a despicable fraud - they’ve clearly created a new #FakeNoose to keep the hoax going.

[MileHi]

BOTTOM LINE: It appears that someone(s) is/are lying to us!

Because they are!

[EMI_Guy]

Great work on snooping-out knots! Yeah...the latest and greatest from Noosecar appears to be quite fraudulent. Stellar work on your part, but that’s routine for you.

There were date-to-date photo comparisons of when these door pull knots existed, and they seemed lame. The photos I saw were of two different mechanic bays easily discerned by seeing the 90 degree difference of the overhead fluorescent fixture install in each pic. So...I dismissed it as a bit of hyperbole and rather useless. We don’t need that stuff to make a case for our side.

The bogus noose pic you are flaming is made from 1/2” Manila rope. 1/2” for a door pull? Mmmmmm-kay :/

[TEXOKIE]

WOW!! Thanks for that pictorial analysis on the “hangman’s noose” images! Clearly SOMEONE is lying to us, as you have so succinctly stated!

Pinging the list for a fascinating discussion of the “NASCAR NOOSE”

http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3858595/posts?page=862#862

[stylin19a]

have you seen this?

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/06/25/about-that-photograph-nascar-panics-after-someone-caught-intentionally-promoting-fake-noose-story-provide-photo-of-noose-but-picture-makes-their-story-worse/