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Flubros and Flubras! Day 46 (a place for Flubros and Flubras)
www.freerepublic.com ^ | 4 May 2020 | Impimp

Posted on 05/04/2020 5:16:25 AM PDT by impimp

It’s just the flu, bro.

Some people are still saying that the Wuhan Flu isn’t just the flu. It is just the flu, bro. Normally the flu causes 10s of thousands of deaths each winter. Now some Fear-mongers are saying that historically the flu deaths have been exaggerated by the CDC, which therefore makes the 60k (exaggerated, but nonetheless) of Wuhan deaths much worse than the flu. The reality is that there has always been a seasonality to deaths with over a 100k of people in the USA dying in the winter versus the summer (about 10%-15% more deaths in the winter than the summer). A large part of that is due to the flu. The excess deaths (deaths beyond the historical average) we see over the past few weeks represent a small fraction of the 100k of excess deaths that we see in the winter. Based on excess deaths one could say that this is not worse than any flu and perhaps much less than the flu.

Although it is helpful and true to equate CV with the flu or minimize it with respect to the flu, I fear that in the future that we will have created a bad litmus test. Future lawmakers will see models for future pandemics that will say that some virus is going to be much worse than the flu so NOW we can reimpose draconian lockdowns and strip our freedoms from us. Some of these politicians may concede that maybe it was too strict with the Wuhan Flu but this time it would be really justified.

Not sure how many Flubros agree with this because this is beyond the scope of the criteria to be a Flubro or Flubra but...I don’t want some far in the future virus outbreak, that might actually be worse than the flu, to ever be used to justify a lockdown of healthy free citizens. I mean even with a really bad hypothetical virus (one that, unlike CV, might actually kill little children) - the policy should never be to strip away our freedoms and force healthy people to be locked down. This notion that locking down healthy people is an acceptable public policy needs to be permanently killed.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: antivaxxers; coronacold; coronavirus; fearpers; trumpvaccine
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To: kosciusko51

Thanks!


41 posted on 05/04/2020 6:14:24 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Are the ChiComs/PRC, ESPN of America's, fake news media/CNN, Democrats, the real Deep Staters?)
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To: McGruff

——Hundreds of Boats Gather for Parade Supporting Trump Near Mar-a-Lago-——

There were hundreds of boats, would have been more but the ramps were BUSY as they just opened.


42 posted on 05/04/2020 6:15:52 AM PDT by VastRWCon (Fake News)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“...But they don’t get waived under our noses by the press 24/7....”

They WOULD if they thought it would help remove Trump.

That’s the ONLY reason for the inflated death reports.


43 posted on 05/04/2020 6:17:38 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: impimp
And one fearper.

Florida man stalks beach as Grim Reaper to protest reopening amid pandemic

In fairness, the Grim Reaper in question was actually Daniel Uhlfelder, a lawyer and campaigner for public beach access who put on a cowl and wielded a scythe in an attempt to alert Floridians to the dangers of reopening their economy too soon.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/02/florida-grim-reaper-beach-video-coronavirus

44 posted on 05/04/2020 6:18:58 AM PDT by McGruff (Biden's still Hidin)
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To: Grampa Dave
Yeah,Grampa Dave. You've been really "kickin' it" lately.

BTW,I stole one of your MEMEs :)

45 posted on 05/04/2020 6:20:48 AM PDT by SanchoP (The sheeple cower as the HOAX continues.)
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To: SanchoP
You guys gonna like this a lot.

A Hero Of Flubro Nation

(excerpt tweet w/video)

This is what an officer of the law is sworn to - men in blue Never forget this... the People are peaceful and protesting against tyranny - remember your oath...


46 posted on 05/04/2020 6:25:49 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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47 posted on 05/04/2020 6:26:15 AM PDT by haffast (Double Standards Exist. Freedom of Speech. Patriots are Dying. Woke is hard. Anons Know.)
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To: haffast

California Police STAND DOWN After Marine Vet Challenges Their Integrity
54,086 views •May 3, 2020
https://youtu.be/DTqipTcwxyA


48 posted on 05/04/2020 6:33:17 AM PDT by haffast (Double Standards Exist. Freedom of Speech. Patriots are Dying. Woke is hard. Anons Know.)
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To: bagster

A hero of freebro nation!

... to protect and defend the Constitution against ALL enemies, foreign and domestic. Seems we’re seeing a lot of domestic enemies of late.

The Constitution IS the law.


49 posted on 05/04/2020 6:34:00 AM PDT by meyer (WWG1WGA, MAGA! The DNC virus is much deadlier than the Wu Han Flu.)
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To: haffast

Great video - glad you posted it!


50 posted on 05/04/2020 6:42:19 AM PDT by meyer (WWG1WGA, MAGA! The DNC virus is much deadlier than the Wu Han Flu.)
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To: lodi90

“I tried to tell this fellow (I think in vain) that it’s useless to try and use personal anecdotes in a statistical argument.


Only the intellectually dishonest won’t admit that the statistics are already corrupt. The case numbers are vastly inflated due to double counting and there is a financial incentive to declare a fatality as Chicom flu related.”

Well-respected book, How to Lie with Statistics:
https://www.amazon.com/How-Lie-Statistics-Darrell-Huff/dp/0393310728


51 posted on 05/04/2020 6:43:05 AM PDT by Notthemomma
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To: crusty old prospector

I’ve been hearing this too. IMO the State should be contacting employers and see if a person has a job they won’t return to - if so, they’re not unemployed and shouldn’t get a check.

These people will be the death of our economy, where do they think the money is coming from? ...very short sighted and when the checks stop there won’t be any jobs to return to.


52 posted on 05/04/2020 6:45:18 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: bagster

I think the public would be pleasantly surprised how many LEOs feel this way.


53 posted on 05/04/2020 6:45:19 AM PDT by SanchoP (The sheeple cower as the HOAX continues.)
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To: fuzzylogic

But I was really enjoying binge watching “Lonesome Dove.” Work is for suckas.


54 posted on 05/04/2020 6:48:26 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: gas_dr
I think the problem with the Fearpers is that they are using this to justify the stripping of our freedoms.

As near as I can tell, there are three groups of people who fall in line with the draconian measures being applied by government:

Hypochondriacs and general nervous nellies.

Generally well-meaning people who think following these guidelines will help.

Power hungry leftists who see an opportunity to damage the President.

All three are a threat to freedom and liberty, particularly the 2nd group. We know the leftists will act this way, but it's everyday Americans who are so willing to quickly give up rights that should be disconcerting.

55 posted on 05/04/2020 6:50:16 AM PDT by Kharis13
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To: SanchoP

Thanks. I really like your current tagline.

My wife and I joke about sheltering and cowering in place.

Please use anything that I post. I probably “borrowed” it and morphed it into what I’m posting.


56 posted on 05/04/2020 7:03:13 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Are the ChiComs/PRC, ESPN of America's, fake news media/CNN, Democrats, the real Deep Staters?)
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To: impimp

Latest narrative shift from the Anti-American swamp (and their useful idiots in the msm and right here) is you can’t compare flu deaths to covid because they are overcounting flu deaths. “Apples and oranges!” is the new phrase to use.

It is, of course, complete garbage designed to prevent folks from realizing how idiotic this whole response has been.

Here to debunk it (see pp 7-9 esp):

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4504370/#!po=16.3462


57 posted on 05/04/2020 7:09:54 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Unredact the 99 Collyer Report!!!)
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To: meyer
Great video - glad you posted it! -----------------------------------------------------------
o7
(Saw vid at TFC)


58 posted on 05/04/2020 7:15:31 AM PDT by haffast (Double Standards Exist. Freedom of Speech. Patriots are Dying. Woke is hard. Anons Know.)
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To: impimp

“we will have created a bad litmus test. Future lawmakers will see models for future pandemics that will say that some virus is going to be much worse than the flu so NOW we can reimpose draconian lockdowns and strip our freedoms from us.”

That’s exactly what will happen. They know that people, even so-called conservatives, will forfeit their liberties in a heartbeat, without question, if faced with the possibility of an invisible boogeyman. They know this, because this WuFlu social experiment was a success for them.


59 posted on 05/04/2020 7:21:30 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ( For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a SOUND MIND.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“Sounds like he lost someone in that big Vets home outbreak in Massachusetts. Very sorry for his loss but we can’t run the country based on that.”

Agree. I would sacrifice my health/life if it meant that my young nieces and nephews would grow up in liberty. Losses are terrible — they’re “losses” — but the future of next generations is most important.


60 posted on 05/04/2020 7:24:34 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ( For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a SOUND MIND.)
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