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Corona Virus Daily Thread #50 COVID-19 5/04/2020
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Posted on 05/04/2020 3:29:25 AM PDT by RaceBannon

Corona Virus Daily Thread #50 COVID-19 5/04/2020


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Reference; Science
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; covid19; pandemic; plague; timeline
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To: RummyChick
As Medcram recommends..I think you should ask for this test and provide documentation if they balk.

\ It might get you closer to meds https://www.hematology.org/covid-19/covid-19-and-d-dimer
"When and how often should D-dimer be measured? There is not yet a consensus as to how D-dimer levels should be used for management and/or monitoring of COVID-19 patients. Checking D-dimer on initial presentation in the emergency department, urgent care facility or outpatient clinic is appropriate. Based on available COVID-19 experience (see Table 2) a cut off of >1 μg/mL may stratify patients at higher risk of poor outcomes. For hospitalized patients, there is no consensus regarding how often D-dimer should be measured, or how results should be acted upon with respect to anticoagulation.
261 posted on 05/05/2020 7:28:51 PM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: RummyChick

Cute!


262 posted on 05/05/2020 7:37:01 PM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: RummyChick
I haven't been keeping up much lately - working a lot but thought I'd come on and share this. Hope everyone is doing well.

Researcher Killed in Apparent Murder-Suicide Was Close to ‘Very Significant Findings’ Regarding COVID-19
263 posted on 05/05/2020 7:41:00 PM PDT by knak (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing)
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To: chris37

Thanks for that!

All my southern family members (Florida, Tennessee, Oklahoma, N.Carolina, and Virginia) are masked up
and extremely cautious.

More so than what I have seen of New Yorkers, Philly people, and Jerseyites.


264 posted on 05/05/2020 7:42:52 PM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: bgill

We are heading to 4K dead a day. Americans have decided to accept that. For some reason they think it won’t happen to them or people they love but it will.
Sad days are ahead. The best I can do is wear a mask, gloves and keep my distance. The rest is in Gods hands.


265 posted on 05/05/2020 7:50:02 PM PDT by securityman
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To: securityman

I lost two close relatives to Covid last week.

You can bet I am taking all precautions very seriously.

This evening, I heard of a 35 year old niece in Connecticut who is very ill with the virus.

She is a healthy outdoor enthusiast and an engineer. Working from home. Doesn’t know how she contracted it.

Waited five hours in a long, long line to get tested. Sent home to quarantine. Says she feels like “there is an elephant on my chest.”

Please, everyone, pray for her.


266 posted on 05/05/2020 7:56:57 PM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: miserare

Prayers up.


267 posted on 05/05/2020 7:59:18 PM PDT by CJ Wolf ( #wwg1wga #gin&tonic #Godwins)
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To: miserare

WOW....maybe you have a genetic quirk in your family that makes you susceptible..like the IFITM3 quirk

Searching around to see if vasodepressor syncope was going to mess me up and i found this about various disorders that could have a problem
https://www.dysautonomiainternational.org/page.php?ID=227


268 posted on 05/05/2020 8:03:31 PM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: miserare

btw, she should start taking those things Docs are taking (with consent and medical advise of her Dr)

like quercetin, zinc, melatonin

you can see Dr Louis Coates on facebook or Medcram Dr for things they recommend. I think dr coates puts it in every post.

If you look at the medcram diagram about how this might be killing your body.....NAC might help as well.


269 posted on 05/05/2020 8:06:20 PM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: RaceBannon

Thank you good sir.
May God guide and strengthen us.
Tatt


270 posted on 05/05/2020 8:09:32 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... (Had I brought Christ with me, the outcome would have been different. Dr.Eric Cunningham)
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To: miserare

if you have any asian ancestry you might very well have IFITM3 issues

but it is not exclusive to asian ancestry


271 posted on 05/05/2020 8:11:30 PM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: In_Iowa_not_from

I’d bet the more fanatical they are towards others that are wearing masks, the more fearful they really are and are misdirecting that fear into anger. Caught in the headlights of flight or fight but the enemy is invisible.

Kind of like China at the moment.


272 posted on 05/05/2020 9:08:41 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: Thud

wait. Who’s lying? The Guardian or the Aussie Telegraph?


273 posted on 05/05/2020 9:13:22 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: RaceBannon; Thud; All
https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/how-france-helped-build-chinese-biolab-linked-to-covid-19-and-then-got-burned-by-the-communists
"The French government has been notably restrained in their criticism of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) for unleashing a pandemic upon the world. One possible reason for their reticence is a single, highly embarrassing fact: They essentially built the Wuhan Institute of Virology’s P4 lab in which the coronavirus now sweeping the world was being researched, and from which it escaped.

That the French delivered the turn-key, high-containment biolab to China has long been public knowledge, but now a German newspaper, the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, has added riveting details to the story. The insider information comes from interviews with French scientists directly involved with the effort.

The picture they paint of the lab’s origins and operations is, to say the least, disturbing. It tells us a lot about why we are currently in the midst of a pandemic.

The French government agreed to construct the state-of-the-art lab on condition that scientists from the two countries would collaborate on joint research projects there. The French were to have a significant presence. According to the terms of the agreement, no fewer than 50 French researchers were to have taken up residence in the apartment building attached to the lab, where they would work on a daily basis. The construction of the Wuhan lab was completed by February 2017. This was such an important moment in the history of Sino-French relations that the French premier, Bernard Cazeneuve, personally traveled to Wuhan for the ribbon-cutting ceremony.

To the surprise and consternation of the French, that ceremony marked the effective end of the “research partnership” that the opening of the lab was supposed to inaugurate. Now that China had the P4 lab and technology it wanted, it promptly stiffed its foreign “partner” and tore up the agreement it had signed.

Not a single French researcher was allowed to take up residence in the compound and do research at the lab.
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In other words, from the beginning the Wuhan P4 lab failed to meet international standards. What this means, according to Izambard, is that “the Wuhan lab’s handling of highly-contagious material was never adequately ensured.”

Given what a disaster for the French the P4 lab in Wuhan has become, it is worth asking why they embarked upon it in the first place. Like so many other failed public and private ventures in China, it was an effort to increase trade with the Communist giant. Add to this the fact that France already had close commercial ties with Wuhan, as more than 100 French companies were doing business there.

The stage was set for the P4 lab fiasco back in 2003 during the SARS-epidemic, when Chinese leader Jiang Zemin approached Jacque Chirac for help in building high-containment biolabs. In response, the French president authorized the export of four medium-containment mobile biolabs, or P3-labs. He did this against the advice of his own Defense Ministry, which argued that all existing P3-labs in China were under the direct command and control of the People’s Liberation Army and were being used for military purposes.

The French President’s authorization of the construction of a P4 biolab in Wuhan met even fiercer opposition, this time not only from his own Defense Ministry and the French intelligence service, the DGSE, but also from other member states of the European Union and from the United States. The U.S. had consistently opposed helping China create a P4 lab, and transferring the sensitive technology required to operate it, because of the risk that the facility could be used for military purposes..."


274 posted on 05/05/2020 9:18:48 PM PDT by Thud
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To: blueplum

The Guardian, the Telegraph AND ME.


275 posted on 05/05/2020 9:19:29 PM PDT by Thud
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To: chris37

Here’s news from Texas:

Reopened restaurant told workers: Don’t wear face masks — or don’t work

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dallas-restaurant-workers-face-masks-work/#app

In Iowa, many government and businesses ‘strongly recommend’ wearing PPE and social distancing.

I’d guess the violent response against someone wearing PPE is like the flubro attacks that we used to see on these threads (and have fortunately gone away for the most part).

On FR, the result is hurt feelings and time-outs. In a grocery store or Walmart, someone can get hurt. The old lady can end up in the hospital, or the ant-mask fanatic will end up attacking someone with a CCW permit.


276 posted on 05/05/2020 9:27:52 PM PDT by In_Iowa_not_from
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To: blueplum

I agree. Like China, they are seeing their entire world view crumble in front of them and they can’t cope. They are inflexible and incapable of change.

When I do my grocery store or hardware store run, I’ve made it a point to shop where the majority of employees and customers wear masks. Have to stay away from the crazies (who, currently, are more likely to be those not wearing PPE and/or practicing social distancing).


277 posted on 05/05/2020 9:33:33 PM PDT by In_Iowa_not_from
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To: cgbg

I used to listen to Limbaugh and Hannity while driving, but since the Wu-flu, classic country, oldies, or even NPR are more likely to keep me out of the ditch or the oncoming traffic.

That’s the problem with the country right now. Everything is political. Anything the Democrats are for, they are reflexively against (and vice versa).

If Biden or whoever the Dems replace him with win in the fall, it won’t be because the Dem candidate is better. It will be because a large number of Trump supporters/conservatives will be CCP virus statistics. I’m hoping that the virus doesn’t mutate into something worse (as in the 1918 Flu Pandemic) and/or effective treatment is found. But I’m prepping for the worst case scenario.


278 posted on 05/05/2020 9:48:35 PM PDT by In_Iowa_not_from
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To: In_Iowa_not_from

58 percent of workers at Tyson meat factory in Iowa test positive for coronavirus

An Iowa Public Health Department report showed that more than 700 workers contracted the virus at a meat plant in Perry.

>FYI, Perry is about 20 minutes or so from Des Moines (largest city/business hub in Iowa).

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/58-percent-workers-tyson-meat-factory-iowa-test-positive-coronavirus-n1200641


279 posted on 05/05/2020 10:00:02 PM PDT by In_Iowa_not_from
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To: In_Iowa_not_from

(Masks) Why do so many Americans seem to have an issue with them?

Emory University Global Health and Law Professor Polly Price says the situation in America now mirrors what happened during the 1918 Spanish flu outbreak.

At the time, the US Surgeon General advised everyone to make and wear their own mask - just as instructions are now on the Centers for Disease Control’s website, guides were sent to newspapers.

“It was up to state and local governments whether they were going to require their populations to do it - not all did,” she says.

Some cities levied fines for people not wearing them.

“There were very few court challenges, but they generally upheld the authority of local governments to have face mask ordinances,” Prof Price says.

“We do have a long tradition of individual rights, so even during the Spanish flu people would sue about the schools [being] closed. Or restaurants and bars were closed and people would sue about that and they routinely lost.”

In the same way that protesters have argued the lockdowns infringe their rights, much of the anti-mask rhetoric seems to come from the same well - American resistance to government mandates.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52540015


280 posted on 05/05/2020 10:21:36 PM PDT by In_Iowa_not_from
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