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How about a daily round of applause for Sweden?.....
5/03/20 | The Fop

Posted on 05/03/2020 11:54:44 AM PDT by The Fop

To all people with common sense, who have watched events unfold over the past two months, and have made the attempt to read and inform themselves, carefully weighing data, and keeping an open mind, only to ultimately conclude that COVID-19 is not the Black plague, or even a Screaming Blue Meanie, and are mad as hell about it!

Mad about the inaccurate predictions. Mad about massive government overreach. Mad about the scare tactics. And most of all, mad at the easily manipulated sheeple and the naked attempt by politicians to use this flu as a last ditch attempt to defeat Trump.

So here's a way to be heard. Every night at 6 pm, let's open our windows and give a round of applause to the one Western nation that didn't reflexively join the wild herd. The one country that ignored all the noise and used their own judgement.

Sweden will be have the last laugh on all the masked doomsayers. Until they let us go back to living our normal lives, I consider myself to be an honorary Swede!


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To: dynoman
This is not even about voluntary social distancing. It's about compulsory and forced mass quarantines and stay at home orders under penalty of being arrested and charged in court. It's virtual house arrest. Totally unconstitutional.
Sweden never did that.
South Dakota never did that.
But then DeBlasio sends his Gestapo police to go arrest a few Jewish New Yorkers for daring to meet in their own back yard.
41 posted on 05/03/2020 12:36:45 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: dynoman

“When did NYC start sanitizing subway cars? Do you know?”

Like two days ago.

Why do you ask?

Don’t be coy or clever. It can lead to misunderstandings.


42 posted on 05/03/2020 12:37:50 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: dynoman
Sweden is clearly “winning”!

Why stop there? Lots of other countries besides Finland, Norway and Denmark. Sweden is doing better than most of Europe.

Confirmed deaths (absolute) Population (in millions) Deaths per million
Belgium          7,765  11.42 679.82
Spain           25,100  46.72 537.2
Italy           28,710  60.43 475.09
United Kingdom  28,131  66.49 423.09
France          24,729  66.99 369.16
Netherlands      4,987  17.23 289.42
Ireland          1,286   4.85 264.96
Sweden           2,669  10.18 262.1
Switzerland      1,762   8.52 206.89
United States   66,285 327.17 202.6

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

43 posted on 05/03/2020 12:38:11 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: tallyhoe

If I own a dine in restaurant, I would just close it down for 2020 and then reopen either in 2021 or 2022. If we survived the Great Depression, we will survive this. Consumer confidence is key here.


44 posted on 05/03/2020 12:38:27 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: dynoman

Speaking of stupid, since you like to play with numbers:

Sweden = 262 deaths per million
Spain = 537 deaths per million
Italy = 475 deaths per million
France = 369 deaths per million
USA = 202 deaths per million or a lot more
Or a lot less, depending upon where you live
etc
etc
etc


45 posted on 05/03/2020 12:39:02 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: dynoman

Some of those countries are counting all deaths as they are Covid-19.. Some are heart attacks flu car accidents..


46 posted on 05/03/2020 12:39:55 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: The Fop
I wish them luck in their experiment. It will be interesting to see if they have developed the herd immunity when the virus come back next fall.
47 posted on 05/03/2020 12:40:00 PM PDT by McGruff (Biden's still Hidin)
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To: ifinnegan

Because Wyoming was better than Sweden! And Wyoming followed the federal social distancing guidelines.

This too shows limiting the comparison to lockdown or not commits the fallacy of too few alternatives.


48 posted on 05/03/2020 12:40:00 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Look at post 23. Read through the thread before jumping straight to personal insults.


49 posted on 05/03/2020 12:41:30 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

I repeat, your post #2 is worthless.
What?
You paid trolls hang around FR all day so you can pounce on any OP about how well Sweden is doing by cutting and pasting the same already prepared deceptive garbage figures every single time?
Is that it?


50 posted on 05/03/2020 12:44:02 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: MinorityRepublican

f I own a dine in restaurant, I would just close it down for 2020 and then reopen either in 2021 or 2022. If we survived the Great Depression, we will survive this. Consumer confidence is key here.

No we are talking 10 years maybe.. Besides what if the Dems take over in the fall. What then? In the 30’s we weren’t in debt for 100’s of trillions of dollars...


51 posted on 05/03/2020 12:44:16 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: dynoman

Yes, it absolutely is a given because the survivors have antibodies and even if they later catch a different strain the antibodies they have will make that other strain less severe.

So yes, we do know that.


52 posted on 05/03/2020 12:44:59 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: tallyhoe

If Democrats take over in the fall, we’ll see Tea Party Movement II emerge.


53 posted on 05/03/2020 12:45:46 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: SmokingJoe

NYC elected him. He tweeted that everyone should enjoy the parades and the NYC health commissioner said “don’t believe corona virus misinformation”.

Florida got the majority of their corona cases from NYC!

BTW do you know when NYC started sanitizing subway cars? Last week Wednesday. That is BrainDeadStupid.


54 posted on 05/03/2020 12:45:58 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

Lockdowns and social distancing did not make a consistent or significant difference in deaths per million or Sweden”

Logical fallacy; too few alternatives. There are way more variables than just social distancing. For instance there just as large variables between countries that did social distancing. Why is that?

Learn what significant means.

You almost made a point. Not an important one. A word game one, necessary for scientific articles, but serving avoiding the issue in informal conversations.

To be clear no conclusion can be made that Sweden’s policies increased its death per million compared to countries with differing policies.

No conclusion can be made that lockdown or social distancing decreased deaths per million in any country.

“There are way more variables than just social distancing. For instance there just as large variables between countries that did social distancing. Why is that?”

Yes.

But that’s not the topic. The question is are the claims Sweden got hit worse due to her policies true?

The answer is a resounding no evidence supports that hypothesis.


55 posted on 05/03/2020 12:46:34 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: The Fop

Where you have evidence that it’ll go away in the summer? Ecuador is a hotspot even though it’s a tropical country in the Southern Hemisphere.


56 posted on 05/03/2020 12:47:00 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: The Fop

So can I fly safely to Sweeden and once I get there do anything I want? I need a vacation from this Government imposed, self flagellation. It would be so nice to spend the day pouring a cast at a hippy co-op foundry and afterwards cuddling with my distant relatives on a bear rug after a soothing lutefisk dinner.


57 posted on 05/03/2020 12:47:02 PM PDT by Rainwave ("Work out your OWN salvation with fear and trembling")
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To: SmokingJoe

How much worth does your post 50 have?? Don’t be so emotional!


58 posted on 05/03/2020 12:47:27 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

Sweden takes in more immigrants, particularly “refugees,” than these other Scandinavian countries.

Perhaps they have come to realize that they have taken in too many and their attempt at herd immunity is to cull part of the herd.

Perhaps many in Sweden would say that they are indeed winning, but winning a different game altogether.


59 posted on 05/03/2020 12:48:50 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat ("Forgetting pain is convenient.Remembering it agonizing.But recovering truth is worth the suffering")
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To: ifinnegan

LOL! You agree that there are more variables. Then you still limit it to one variable, again committing the logical fallacy too few alternatives!

Done talking with you.


60 posted on 05/03/2020 12:50:49 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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