Posted on 05/03/2020 11:54:44 AM PDT by The Fop
To all people with common sense, who have watched events unfold over the past two months, and have made the attempt to read and inform themselves, carefully weighing data, and keeping an open mind, only to ultimately conclude that COVID-19 is not the Black plague, or even a Screaming Blue Meanie, and are mad as hell about it!
Mad about the inaccurate predictions. Mad about massive government overreach. Mad about the scare tactics. And most of all, mad at the easily manipulated sheeple and the naked attempt by politicians to use this flu as a last ditch attempt to defeat Trump.
So here's a way to be heard. Every night at 6 pm, let's open our windows and give a round of applause to the one Western nation that didn't reflexively join the wild herd. The one country that ignored all the noise and used their own judgement.
Sweden will be have the last laugh on all the masked doomsayers. Until they let us go back to living our normal lives, I consider myself to be an honorary Swede!
I don’t believe lockdowns will lead to any kind of delayed spike..... they only lead to economic hardship....seasonal viruses run their course..... It’s like keeping a bunch of bees quarantined during the summer and then letting them free in the Fall..... they’ll all just drop dead around October because that’s what bees do
Yep, flattening the curve prolongs it. I see no reason we should allow a respiratory virus to circulate any longer than it has to.
Sweden 256 deaths per million
New York State 1256 deaths per million
Spain 540 deaths per million
Italy 478 deaths per million
UK 419 deaths per million
France 381 deaths per million
Sweden IS winning
And with ZERO quarantines.
Compare to Wyoming? Wyoming is better.
And you’re clearly not serious if that’s you’re response or perhaps aren’t intellectually sound.
Here’s the comparisons you won’t do.
Sweden today, May 3, has a deaths per million rate of 265.
Let’s compare it to other states.
U.S. States
New York 1,256
New Jersey 888
Connecticut 680
Massachusetts 563
Louisiana 431
Michigan 404
Now other countries
Belgium 677
Spain 540
Italy 478
UK 419
France 381
Netherlands 295
Sweden 265 <===
Ireland 264
USA 206
See post 23.
There’s no point in the argument, we can’t go back and not do social distancing. That cat is long out of the bag.
See #24
Yeah, don’t cherry pick to try to make an argument that’s not worth making. We can’t go back and undo social distancing, and I’m voting for Trump in November.
“Compare to Wyoming, I dare you.”
Wyoming has 12 deaths per million (seven deaths).
Sweden has 265 per million.
Wyoming did not lock down or implement social distance requirements.
Wyoming instituted a two week quarantine for anyone going there.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/john-barrasso-wyoming-still-has-no-stay-at-home-order
When did NYC start sanitizing subway cars? Do you know?
Wyoming did social distancing. The federal 15 day and 30 day social distancing guidelines did not require a stay at home order. States did stay at home orders on their own.
There IS a point in challenging you carefully selective deceptive figures. And I did.
Charlatans and snake oil salesmen like you need to be railroaded out of town.
Mass quarantines are stupid. There is ZERO proof they have worked anywhere.
Countries and states with the toughest mass quarantines, also have the worst deaths and infections rates, most of which came AFTER the quarantines were instituted.
“or perhaps aren’t intellectually sound.”
Why did you default to ad hominem??
I didn’t do that to you! Do be so emotionally invested in your argument you have to start calling names. It’s disgusting.
I posted more up to date numbers, but the conclusion is the same.
Lockdowns and social distancing did not make a consistent or significant difference in deaths per million or Sweden would be above the world and New York and not grouped with Netherlands, Ireland, Switzerland and U.S. Nor would it be lower than UK, Spain, Belgium etc...
Thanks for that brief and clear listing of deaths per million.
Here again is the evidence that we have badly damaged the Republic, largely by way of foolish “experts” and power-grabbing fools.
Again, thanks.
Post 23 is selectively deceptive?
Then you too default to pathetic ad homenim; “Charlatans and snake oil salesmen like you need to be railroaded out of town.”
Why? Is your position so emotional fragile you have to resort to calling names?? LOL!!
There was no way for Trump to successfully argue that we should trade more deaths, for keeping the economy open. There’s no doubt there would have been more deaths without distancing. He’s played this brilliantly, “followed the science”, and destroyed any criticism from his haters using their tools against them. I love how he quotes the “scientific” models which projected 2.2 million dead, we have much less than that, and no one crosses him on it.
You don’t know that! The number of deaths are not as high as they are reporting.. This is just a ploy to keep the economy of the United States shut down. Why? To finish President Trump off. They knew they couldn’t beat him normally and they needed something to get him.. Along comes this Virus. Is it bad? Yes, but not as bad as they the Scientist are saying.. 1. Small children are not carriers and hardly any of the, get sick.. 2. 90% of the people don’t get sick from this and just some have symptoms.. The only group that seems to get it the worst is the elderly who have underlying conditions.. You protect them but you don’t shut down the economy and you don’t scare the populace into panic mode..
Do you realize what the left has done to the world and the United States? They have single handily destroyed the free market.. All these businesses will never recover. Unemployment 20% come November... Trump might still be re-elected but the cost is staggering.. The herd immunity works and the way the scientist Dr. Fauci has done it he will guarantee a second round in the fall!!!
“Why did you default to ad hominem??”
Your comment to compare to Wyoming was so bizarre.
I don’t think it’s ad hominem. Why would you possibly respond with such a comment? It’s not logical in any way.
“Lockdowns and social distancing did not make a consistent or significant difference in deaths per million or Sweden”
Logical fallacy; too few alternatives. There are way more variables than just social distancing. For instance there just as large variables between countries that did social distancing. Why is that?
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