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Corona Virus Daily Thread #47 COVID-19 4/21/2020
many | 4/21/2020 | many

Posted on 04/21/2020 4:53:48 AM PDT by RaceBannon

new thread, starting 4/21/2020


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: 47thread; coronavirus; covid19; pandemic
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To: amorphous

I know what you mean. I was typing up the big state update last night and realized that there are a dozen or more sites people can get those numbers, with graphs and all kinds of goodies. So, I’ll just post news items that I think might be of interest.

I’m also preparing now for a second wave that people are discussing... added some more rows to my garden and this weekend I’m working on expanding my coop.


741 posted on 04/24/2020 5:27:35 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: Fury

Why coronavirus jobs crisis isn’t as bad as it may seem

There is nothing good in those numbers — until you regain your senses and look at the situation objectively.
Why? Because many of the people who filed for unemployment benefits haven’t really been laid off. What their companies did was “furlough” them...

“If you look very deeply in the Bureau of Labor footnotes, you’ll find this: “the number of unemployed people who reported being on temporary layoff more than doubled in March to 1.8 million.”

“This 1 million gain represented the bulk of the increase in unemployment,” the US Labor Department said. The number of people who said they’ve lost their jobs permanently only increased to 1.5 million.”

https://nypost.com/2020/04/16/coronavirus-jobs-crisis-not-as-bad-as-it-may-seem/


742 posted on 04/24/2020 5:27:50 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is youhttpr moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: metmom

my PO must be running trainees. They keep mixing our neighbors mail (and two packages) up with ours. Like, it’s on the same block, good enough for govt work!


743 posted on 04/24/2020 5:30:36 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is youhttpr moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: blueplum

According to WSB TV in Atlanta, there are COVID-19 infections at a PO in Alpharetta.

Tip of the iceberg?


744 posted on 04/24/2020 5:55:10 PM PDT by EarlyBird
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To: LilFarmer
I’m also preparing now for a second wave that people are discussing... added some more rows to my garden and this weekend I’m working on expanding my coop.

Smart move. I would very seriously consider as a minimum, a one year supply of food. And be able to shelter in place for an extended period without any need of the outside world. My gut feeling is this is just one of many coming birth pains.

Our latest purchase was for a new corn and flour mill. In our area, both corn meal and flour are hard to get, but we've always kept a long term supply of both whole wheat and dried whole kernel corn and make our own flour and corn meal.

This new mill spins at 28,000 RPM, smashing the grains into flour, instead of grinding them. And I can use it for making dry rubs and other spices. It can also be used to make "chops" for feeding chickens, and in our case, for feeding the squirrels and birds.

745 posted on 04/24/2020 5:56:47 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: amorphous

We got a grain mill too. Ours supposedly dehulls rice too with another attachment.

So far we love it. Haven’t tried the dehulling yet though.


746 posted on 04/24/2020 5:58:43 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: EarlyBird

I’m sure my neighbors laughed at me for the last two months as I went out with gloves and a spray bottle of disinfectant everytime I got the mail.

I have dedicated slip on shoes for walking in the neighborhood, and keep them outside in a paint roller pan. I spray the bottoms after every walk and never let these shoes into the house.

I’m crazy, I know.


747 posted on 04/24/2020 6:08:30 PM PDT by EarlyBird
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To: blueplum

Re:742 - Thanks for posting this!

From the article:

“Don’t get me wrong. America isn’t likely to come out of this pandemic with as many jobs as it had before the virus shuttered the economy. But things aren’t going to be as bleak as the experts are predicting either.”

I think this is a reasonable statement. Some areas will recover pretty well - other areas will not. Depends on the local economy, what were major revenue drivers for the economy, etc.


748 posted on 04/24/2020 6:09:40 PM PDT by Fury
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To: Black Agnes
Haven't tried to mill rice - however rice is a main staple for us. We buy the big bags of rice at Sam's.

IIRC, isn't it you who grows your own rice? That should be interesting and knowledge of which might be important to have one day.

We use rice in every type of cooking; mexican, creole, chinese, southern, you name it. We also buy the wild black rice, grown in minnesota and canada, for use in some of our favorite dishes.

749 posted on 04/24/2020 6:10:07 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: amorphous

Yes, we grow rice. PM me if you live south of zone 4 for instructions. It’s VERY easy and you don’t need a paddy to do it.

But it has to be dehulled.


750 posted on 04/24/2020 6:11:59 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

K, thanks! :)


751 posted on 04/24/2020 6:14:53 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: PA Engineer; LilFarmer
#691 Interesting post. BTTT.

I second that. Thanks Lil !

752 posted on 04/24/2020 6:17:09 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: LilFarmer

It makes sense that those who were “seriously ill” had no fever if it was a sign of a compromised innate immune system, or the virus somehow avoiding the innate immune responses, including fever. I posted a link yesterday that proposed that the innate immune response might be more critical than the adaptive immune response.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.13.20040980v2.full.pdf


753 posted on 04/24/2020 6:28:14 PM PDT by ETCM
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Go figure.

When Jesus returns, He’ll take care of that.


754 posted on 04/24/2020 6:32:31 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: All

“The Deadly Costs of Extended Shutdown Orders”

- see https://amgreatness.com/2020/04/22/the-deadly-costs-of-extended-shutdown-orders/


755 posted on 04/24/2020 6:33:02 PM PDT by Fury
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To: who knows what evil?

They are out to destroy anything connected with our American history or traditions.


756 posted on 04/24/2020 6:34:31 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: LilFarmer

What other studies say: there is no uniqueness
Other studies have speculated that coronavirus is more lethal where there is pollution. According to an unpublished analysis of Harvard University conducted by the Italian Francesca Dominici, in the long run, a small increase in the average levels of fine dust is enough to raise mortality by 15% even if the methodology used would have gaps. ...

= = =

Recall reading an article, recently, about the steel dust, created by the subways, maybe ?, in NYC that the MTA operators have been aware of, for decades.

Between the steel dust and the density....did NYC ever stand a chance against this horrid virus?

Early shut down of the subways and schools wouldn’t have hurt, imo.


757 posted on 04/24/2020 6:38:11 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: amorphous

I’ve also noticed an uptick in traffic.

more people are out and virtually everyone is wearing a mask. Still shaking my head over those wearing them alone in cars or out for a walk, and those who have it covering their mouth but not their nose. Three’s an awful lot of the latter.


758 posted on 04/24/2020 6:40:14 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: mrsmith

https://www.theengineer.co.uk/aircraft-hbot-hyperbaric-oxygen-chambers/

“HBOT – breathing oxygen under pressure – has the potential to prevent patients deteriorating to the level where they require ventilation. It is standard treatment for many diseases where hypoxia is a factor, but a shortage of HBOT chambers has been perceived as a barrier to adoption for treating COVID-19.”

Never heard of it!
Sure would be nice to keep people off the ventilators though.


759 posted on 04/24/2020 6:41:33 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: EarlyBird

Our doctor told us to keep outdoor shoes outside and not wear them in the house.

So maybe not so crazy after all.


760 posted on 04/24/2020 6:42:52 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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