Corona Virus Daily Thread #47 COVID-19 4/21/2020

many | 4/21/2020 | many

[RaceBannon]

new thread, starting 4/21/2020

[EarlyBird]

It’s becoming increasingly clear that China is spreading propaganda on our nets to induce panic.

We need to be careful of this propaganda when evaluating news stories.

I’m beginning to think that this has been the CCP goal all along - to hype this virus to the max to force Western countries to close their economies.

[DEPcom]

Ok they are saying a lot people have been infected without showing no symptoms. Those people have antibodies indicating they had Coronavirus, if those test are correct.

"New York antibody study estimates 13.9% of residents "

I remember reading stories out of China stating reinfection are deadlier. People would fall over death twitting or hearth attack with the second infection.

Chinese doctors: Coronavirus can reinfect people, and the second infection can lead to heart failure

Whistleblower doctors say coronavirus reinfection even deadlier

Each infection damages your body. Is there a immunity?

A startling number of coronavirus patients get reinfected

[DEPcom]

” virus should not be allowed to spread for heard immunity”

See my post 582

[PA Engineer]

I'm running into the same problem. My dentist would have done the work, however they are in a "very high" risk exposure situation and were shut down here.

I had one of those mystery molar curling roots (not uncommon) that worked its way into my upper sinus. Had the periodontal work done and temp crown placed. I had reservations when it was done, however he said if worse came to worse he would do the 3D print of the crown as a semi-permanent temp.

I didn't think they would shut them all down. So far the temp is holding up. Fingers crossed.

In a severe SHTF situation I determined a long time ago that a dentist is a must for prepper groups. The thought of Egyptian Pharaohs dying of dental abscess convinced me dentistry is way up on the prepared list.

[Black Agnes]

https://twitter.com/idahomolly/status/1253138993811619841

(...gets in car, drives to Idaho, rents uhaul...)

[LilFarmer]

I agree about China. I posted that mainly because of the reference to the S. Korea numbers. I’ve been posting S Korea stories about this for the past week or so.

[PA Engineer]

I didn’t see the coded as covid in the link. Do you have another link with that conclusion?

[mrsmith]

“… into the weeds a bit here.”

Yeah, I thought so too.
Idea isn’t bad, ethanol mist iton the the lungs, there are devices that take light into the lungs, but he was ‘out there’ a bit.

[LilFarmer]

S. Korea’s reinfections appear to be mild. There are a couple of pages of articles about the reinfections here: https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/welcome-to-the-scientific-library/immunity-aa/848428-covid-19-reinfections-thread-207-cases-in-south-korea-saying-not-highly-infectious

[LilFarmer]

Sheesh, that is so sad. Can’t food banks take them?

[ETCM]

It’s possible this isn’t even “live” virus, but virus RNA remaining in the body and causing the positive test. Let’s hope that’s the case. I heard of one case in SK where the relapsed person died, but that seems to be the exception.

But maybe the virus is living on in recovered patients. Considering the infection attacks so many organs, it shouldn’t be a surprise if there are viral reservoirs. If this IS active virus, that means it is coexisting with what are supposed to be neutralizing anti-bodies, and that could be a problem as antibodies fade. Or you pick something else up that your immune system has to fight, and CV19 is waiting to jump back in to action.

There is some evidence that the innate immune system response might be as or more important than the adaptive immune system. Maybe those taking supplements to boost their innate immune system have the right idea.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.13.20040980v2.full.pdf

[mrsmith]

“Outside” report...

Dollar General had doors open, no mask on this cashier (individual choice), only the cheap TP, plenty of everything else.
Gossip of case at other variety store/ gas station in this small town. I hadn’t been there for 2 weeks. Looknig good here

[PA Engineer]

Total disaster. Going into another season of no plant and harvest is the elephant in the living room everyone is ignoring.

I don't know how much we will be exporting. Russia shut down all grain exports last week and China is definitely experiencing another no plant season.

I think the US will muddle its way along. Canada? Definitely not China. Every minimum dynasties collapse.

[HollyB]

I’m saying that is probably the logical conclusion as to why some of those numbers are down.

[Black Agnes]

Yup, total disaster.

One reason we’re going to grow everything we possibly can on site.

A citrus grove, fruit orchard, berry brambles, asparagus beds, filberts, you name it. And then there’s the garden...

[PA Engineer]

I’m saying that is probably the logical conclusion as to why some of those numbers are down.

That is not logic. That is an unsubstantiated assumption.

[PA Engineer]

We are planting heavy this year.

I've been ranching deer for a couple of decades. Fed them hundreds of blue rugs and rhododendron. Time to harvest.

[Black Agnes]

Us too.

We have a rule. The peppers end up in my dinner one way or another. Either as peppers or as the deer that ate the peppers.

[miserare]

Good to know.

[Black Agnes]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Freebirdy6/status/1241178442801885184