Posted on 04/17/2020 6:20:15 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
We have an effective therapy, have had it since before 2009. Fauci begged to use HCQ during the MERS outbreak in 2009.
Now we have SARS-2, the Wuhan Boogaloo. We have a MOUNTAIN of empirical evidence that HCQ/Zinc is prophylactic and HCQ/Zinc/Antibiotic is a therapy for the infected.
Remdesivir is tested on 125 people with good results (and two deaths), but NOW there's hope?
Sorry, smells horrible.
Understood. I get that there needs to be other options, but why the foot dragging on the option that was available given the side effects were so marginal?
Nobody even QUESTIONED taking HCQ when given an assignment to Africa or Asia. We just took it, and on an entire ship NOBODY reported any side effects. Nobody said, “Hey, watch your vitamin intake and your heart, because you can get really hosed on this stuff.”
It’s not like HCQ was invented in December. It’s an old, old drug.
-—Because first scientific study of chloroquine showed that it is not a solution-—
Chinese study, for what it’s worth. But, in the body of the study, it said that chloroquine did significantly reduce symptoms. Also, the Std. of Care that the study used as a base line is a bit vague, especially if it is the Chinese standard of care. Additionally, these were patients already hospitalized in China. It is difficult to understand their true health status.
I don’t have an opinion as to the efficacy of HCQ, but I do have an opinion regarding this study: it does not show that HCQ is not an effective treatment early on.
Azithromycin is known to cause issues for people with certain heart conditions. Alternatives to HCQ/Azithromycin are needed for these people.
Because, unlike NASCAR drivers, politicians + FauxChi + Brix + Redfield don’t have to wear their SPONSORS names on their clothing.
OMG! I had no idea the price difference is so dramatic. (Again ... follow the money, right?)
https://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1743-422X-2-69
Actually, its part of a solution and the First scientific study showed that...fifteen years ago.
When you don’t even research work that has already been done and begin your own study with an agenda what you are doing isn’t science.
Nothing, no data, from China is reliable. Should not even be cited.
We have a MOUNTAIN of empirical data right here in the US. We have politicians and movie stars cured by it and will not say a peep about it (except for that poor naive D from Georgia who is going to get hammered for having the poor sense than to be grateful to President Trump for pushing this).
If China said water was wet, I’d start from the position it wasn’t.
Because there’s no money in a $20 cure that’s been off patent for a number of years. Compare that with the cost of Remdesivir which is “new” and on patent. I’ve read $1000/dose.
And there you have quite properly explained the extreme stupidity of the approach that is being advanced. Thank you for doing so, even if it was not your intent.
But hydroxy with zinc and zpac is quite impressive and a whole heck of a lot cheaper.
I think the HCQ has to start early in the process to be most effective.
Shotgun vs rifle
Because. we need a way to treat vented patients that works.
Do you mean that HCQ can only be administered orally?
It would appear that the hydroxychloroquine/Zithromax regimen is most beneficial when begun in the earliest stages of the infection. Best results when given with the onset of fever and cough before the development of shortness of breath and pneumonitis and long before a confirmatory COVID-19 test can be reported. Many frontline physicians have noted not only clinical improvement but a decline in C Reactive Protein , which is a marked of inflammation and probable infection. The armchair scientists and epidemiologists will never concede or certify such a clinical approach, label all reports as antidotal, until there are prospective and retrospective studies to ponder and confirm. They loathe ethical Edisonian empiricism which historically has been at the core of medical advances.
The Democratic governors who are denying access to Hydroxychloroquine by making it nearly impossible for primary care physicians to timely prescribe and pharmacists to dispense have blood on their hands and ought to be held accountable.
Exactly; and that brings up a good point. Many of these “HCQ only” studies being when the patient is well into the disease. Very sad and exploitative.
An apparently far better substitute for those with certain heart issues is the antibiotic Doxycycline.
It is hoped remdesivir would kill the virus as opposed to the zinc just stopping the replication of the virus inside the cell.
I’ve also read that the Gilead drug has some bad side effects. Hard on the liver.
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