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Corona Virus Daily Thread #44 COVID-19
various | 04-13-2020 | RaceBannon

Posted on 04/13/2020 2:28:12 PM PDT by RaceBannon

new thread starting 4-13-2020


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; covid19; wuhanflu
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To: justa-hairyape

https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-spike-protein-structure.html


101 posted on 04/13/2020 8:15:05 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: mrsmith

https://twitter.com/ChinaBeigeBook/status/1249876922034782209

” “Using conservative figures, CBB’s Scissors estimates 2.9M cases in #China vs the 82K Beijing reports. If Scissors is right, # of cases that China has concealed is greater than the total # of cases reported in the rest of the world” “

Very authoritive source.


102 posted on 04/13/2020 8:22:49 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: RaceBannon; metmom; Mariner; mrsmith; LilFarmer; RetiredScientist; ReaganGeneration2; miserare; ...
My Daily Fatality Index (DFI), for 13 April, 2020.

US Previous (6.91) Current (6.49)

Data sourced from: https://www.worldometers.info. Smaller ratio numbers are better. Data not validated. YMMV for informational interest only. PM me if you would like on or off the list.

Daily percentage of new Corona virus deaths to previous day's total by country. 25% = total deaths double every 3 days, 20% = every 4 days, 15% = every 5 days, 10% = about 1 week, 5% = about 2 weeks.

103 posted on 04/13/2020 8:26:00 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: LilFarmer

Looks like the idea that this thing never goes away is going near to mainstream. Definitely gaining traction. Especially after the story in the past few days about the virus targeting t-cells.


104 posted on 04/13/2020 8:41:35 PM PDT by riri (If people still dropping, most aint shopping.)
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New video from Chris Martenson, and based on the title alone I’m going to wait until tomorrow to watch it.

NEW RESEARCH: Coronavirus Has A Second Route For Attack!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9wbb0FN6sM


105 posted on 04/13/2020 8:45:05 PM PDT by SlipperySlope99
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To: All

“Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread”

- see https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/


106 posted on 04/13/2020 8:46:36 PM PDT by Fury
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To: Vermont Lt

https://twitter.com/angie_rasmussen/status/1249689642992951296

“No. There is no data supporting that these “reactivations” are much more than unreliable test results and/or fluctuating viral RNA. The press needs to stop uncritically reporting on “troubling” findings for which no data is available to examine.”

The thread’s a good read.


107 posted on 04/13/2020 8:47:35 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: mrsmith

“BREAKING: Routine universal screening in women delivering babies in NYC shows 13.5% who are a symptomatic have #coronavirus, 1.9% symptomatic https://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMc2009316?articleTools=true … “

Along way from “herd immunity” LOL! Interesting though.


108 posted on 04/13/2020 8:57:34 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: LilFarmer
Stephanie Soucheray | News Reporter | CIDRAP News | Apr 13, 2020 A study published late last week in Emerging Infectious Diseases found a wide distribution of COVID-19 virus genetic material on surfaces and in the air about 4 meters (13 feet) from patients in two hospital wards in Wuhan, China, posing a risk to healthcare workers. While the findings of the environmental sampling study do not indicate the amount of live virus, if any, or precisely determine the distance of aerosol transmission, the authors say that they confirm that the virus spreads in aerosols in addition to large respiratory droplets.

Sounds like an argument for avoiding being quarantined with infected persons, Why hospitals are hotbeds of coronavirus transmission , versus a practice shown to be efficacious during the 1918 flu:

https://medium.com/@ra.hobday/coronavirus-and-the-sun-a-lesson-from-the-1918-influenza-pandemic-509151dc8065 Coronavirus and the Sun: a Lesson from the 1918 Influenza Pandemic . Put simply, medics found that severely ill flu patients nursed outdoors recovered better than those treated indoors. A combination of fresh air and sunlight seems to have prevented deaths among patients; and infections among medical staff.

`Open-Air’ Treatment in 1918 During the great pandemic, two of the worst places to be were military barracks and troop-ships. Overcrowding and bad ventilation put soldiers and sailors at high risk of catching influenza and the other infections that often followed it.[2,3] As with the current Covid-19 outbreak, most of the victims of so-called `Spanish flu’ did not die from influenza: they died of pneumonia and other complications.

However, A Virologist Explains Why COVID-19 Coronavirus Isn’t Really Dangerously Lingering On Surfaces For Weeks

But, COVID-19 may spread through breathing and talking — but we don't know how much

109 posted on 04/13/2020 8:57:57 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: LilFarmer

Thanks for all of the state updates :-)


110 posted on 04/13/2020 9:00:19 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: PA Engineer; Black Agnes

I have several blocks of Kerrygold butter and cheese, that we got last month, in the freezer.

Hubby’s fave cheese to snack on.

All full fat, European style (grass fed, etc.).


111 posted on 04/13/2020 9:07:13 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: TermLimits4All
Kerrysgold but no TP. Still no tp in any of the stores. If we manufacture all the to for our country why are these stores still out? Glad I have a stash but it is pretty disturbing from a supply chain perspective.

I read that it is because about 40% of the production is in commercial form, and evidently it does not profit them to retool to product more retail.

112 posted on 04/13/2020 9:07:36 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: LilFarmer
In an unusual development, “Patient 22,” a British man discharged from Da Nang March 27 has tested positive again, putting HCMC on guard

I do not think it is a case of reinfection, but of resurgence, meaning Covid does not go all away but resides at a level testing does not detect, and then comes back once the patience gets tired thru resumed activity.

113 posted on 04/13/2020 9:10:23 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: chris37

*chuckle*

When I was in college it was all I could afford.


114 posted on 04/13/2020 9:15:29 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Jane Long

That and swiss cheese are good to snack on.


115 posted on 04/13/2020 9:16:16 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: SlipperySlope99

The flu bros attacked the article that Chris references cause it came from China. Lol. Yeah. South China Morning Post baby. Here is their mission statement.
“Our vision [for SCMP] is to grow the readership globally. We believe we can do this because the SCMP, from its base in Hong Kong, is uniquely positioned to report on China with objectivity, depth and insight, a proposition that is in high demand by readers around the English-speaking world who care to better understand the world’s second-largest economy. To help achieve our vision, we plan to make the SCMP more readily available.”


116 posted on 04/13/2020 9:18:47 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: justa-hairyape

Well, they are kind of a mouthpiece. Aren’t they owned by jack ma?

Regardless, i see this as the PRC trying to get ahead of discoveries that are coming down the pike.

‘see, we told you this 2 months ago, you’re only now just finding out?’.


117 posted on 04/13/2020 9:20:27 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: daniel1212

That good ole fresh air and sunshine.

The media could use some of it !


118 posted on 04/13/2020 9:20:48 PM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: daniel1212

Dr. Campbell in the UK pointed out that he used Nightingale Suites in his hospitals back when aids first came out. Of course many were dieing early on and their immune systems made them open for other diseases. He thinks opening the big windows every morning helped some. Cross contamination issues. Then add sun Ray’s to that picture.


119 posted on 04/13/2020 9:23:49 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Black Agnes

They have put out some real good articles. We must assume that China has internal warring factions just like the US does. Although I have not seen Chinese throwing eggs yet at their enemy faction. Lol.


120 posted on 04/13/2020 9:26:40 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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