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Sailors Chant, Cheer for Ousted USS Roosevelt Commander as He Leaves Carrier
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Posted on 04/03/2020 6:15:06 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Capt. Brett Crozier was removed from his post as commanding officer of the San Diego-based USS Theodore Roosevelt, but he got a hero’s sendoff from his sailors as he left the aircraft carrier in Guam.

Video shared by sailors on social media shows a significant number of the crew cheering, applauding and chanting Crozier’s name as he exited the vessel.

The captain was relieved of command over the way he spread a memo wrote to Navy leadership desperately calling for swift action after a major coronavirus outbreak aboard the Roosevelt.

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TOPICS: Local News; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: brettcrozier; chainofcommand; coronavirus; covid19; guam; insubordination; navy; ussroosevelt
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To: AndyJackson

Good question


41 posted on 04/03/2020 8:40:30 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Dead Dog

“This is likely a war.”

The US along with a number of other nations have been actively at war since the beginning of WW II. Finances, weapons, information, and the destruction or twisting of them have been in the works for 80 years.

I live in the northwest, and we’ve had Russian communication ships in our area for a number of years. The latest one, the Yantar, parks at the main communication cables coming out of Seattle. They tap into those and, also, monitor communications out of Bangor, Bremerton, the Navy brain box in Everett, along with further south at JBLM. Funny thing is we know they’re out there, so we lie to them. All part of the game.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/hisutton/2019/11/10/russias-suspected-internet-cable-spy-ship-appears-off-americas/#15c4605842d5

rwood


42 posted on 04/03/2020 9:00:14 PM PDT by Redwood71
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To: MikelTackNailer

This former Army officer notes the unbelievable stupidity of that Navy O6. Combat readiness of weapon systems like a fighting ship is highly sensitive information. Too stupid to be stupid. Maybe an Obama officer looking fora CNN job?


43 posted on 04/03/2020 9:00:48 PM PDT by OldArmy52 (Mayor Buttplug for President!)
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To: Midwesterner53

You serius lee gonna believe what a Fox new “reporter” tells you happened?

I know why sailors cheer and applaud when the old man gets piped ashore for being an idiot.


44 posted on 04/03/2020 9:12:55 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Be strong & prosper, be weak & die! Stay true.... ~~ Donald J. Trump)
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To: Midwesterner53

“This retired Army Officer considers him a hero...”

This retired Air Force officer considers him unqualified to command. You cannot expect subordinates to obey YOUR orders if you will not obey the orders of your superiors. The military undoubtedly WAS taking action. Action his superiors had the right to choose. And he went around them.

His response to his superiors would have been fine - as a suggestion, and CLASSIFIED.


45 posted on 04/03/2020 9:14:17 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: nickcarraway

I do remember the movie BEHIND ENEMY LINES (2001)...

Admiral Reigart (Gene Hackman) decides to rescue a naval aviator, ignoring his orders...

He is dismissed from his command...He gets off the aircraft carrier while the sailors were cheering...


46 posted on 04/03/2020 9:30:44 PM PDT by L.A.Justice
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To: Delta 21

I know why sailors cheer and applaud when the old man gets piped ashore for being an idiot.
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YES!!!!

I seem to remember the ‘Old Man’ wasn’t there to be liked, he was there to be RESPECTED and ‘feared’ (feared in the sense of you recognized his authority and the wrath he could bring down on you were you to ‘screw up’. Not sure how it is today but ‘way back when’, the CO was CO whether he was there or not, he was still ‘responsible’ for any screw ups his crew may have ventured into).
Bucher of the USS Pueblo sort of changed that ‘theory’ when he was to take the brunt of the Pueblos problems and it was ‘learned’ there were spaces on the ship he wasn’t allowed in and they were trying to ‘hang him’ because certain documents weren’t destroyed...

Cheering the departure of the ‘Old Man’ isn’t always a matter of ‘respect’.

The old “Everyone pleases everyone else, some by entering a room and some by leaving it” comes into effect.


47 posted on 04/03/2020 9:33:28 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98"HRC is the Grandmother that lures Hansel & Gretel to the pot")
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To: nickcarraway

As I understand it, that’s pretty much what the ship’s captain was advocating, but I will try to read his original letter if possible. Again, my understanding is he wanted to evacuate all but a bare minimum of the crew, keeping only a skeleton crew on board.


48 posted on 04/03/2020 9:43:22 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: nickcarraway

Maybe Captain Crozier informed his chain of command and they refused to take any action, and he wanted a record of his demands for a tion.

You can bet your ass that if large numbers of the crew were infected, he would have been the one blamed for the carrier being non- combat ready.

I think he was acting in the best interest of his crew; and the Navy.

Congress will be investigating and I suspect he will be vindicated.


49 posted on 04/03/2020 10:15:45 PM PDT by WASCWatch
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To: Eagles6

There are about 4,500 sailors who crew an aircraft carrier.

Looks to like at least 1,000 - 2,000 were chanting support for Captain Crozier. He may have cost himself promotion to at least Rear Admiral, but he will have a clear conscience and the love and respect of his crew.


50 posted on 04/03/2020 10:23:18 PM PDT by WASCWatch
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To: Eagles6

Happy to see him go? Are you kidding?

If they were happy to see him go, they would have been chanting “Na na na na, hey hey, good bye.”


51 posted on 04/03/2020 10:26:51 PM PDT by WASCWatch
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To: nickcarraway

If he got no help from the chain of command, then he should have gone to the Navy IG. But he never, ever should have given information to the press that a major combatant is essentially out of action. Mega no, no.


52 posted on 04/03/2020 10:45:15 PM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: Bookshelf

Apparently, you fail at Googling or even remotely using a search engine?

https://www.google.com/search?q=Patton+cheered+by+his+men&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS812US812&oq=Patton+cheered+by+his+men&aqs=chrome..69i57.5294j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


53 posted on 04/03/2020 11:46:29 PM PDT by cranked
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To: WASCWatch

Not likely.


54 posted on 04/03/2020 11:52:29 PM PDT by GreyHoundSailor
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To: Midwesterner53

Not even remotely close to the whole crew which is numbered at over 3000. Perhaps 5-700 sailors cheering this shameful example of a ships captain.


55 posted on 04/04/2020 1:51:35 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: socalgop

You are completely cluess as to the mission of the Military as well as procedures in place to carry out the mission.


56 posted on 04/04/2020 1:54:26 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: 2banana

Yep - some laud him for “trying to take care of his folks” but you do that by going up the chain - not around it...and it ain’t necessary to blare out about a potential weak spot for our enemies - if China, or other’s who wish us ill and who want to be the superpower, were to contemplate doing something bad, this type situation would seem a likeliest bet.


57 posted on 04/04/2020 3:47:10 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: Midwesterner53

Thank you for sharing the perspective of someone who has actually served in a military position of command.


58 posted on 04/04/2020 7:22:45 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: WASCWatch; Midwesterner53

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/04/theres_another_side_to_the_story_of_the_fired_navy_captain.html


59 posted on 04/04/2020 9:57:45 AM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Redwood71

Remember back in the 90’s the Russians lazed a US Navy Jayhawk(?) in the Straits? Damaged the retinas of some of the crew. Now outrage from Xlinton.


60 posted on 04/04/2020 10:17:40 AM PDT by Dead Dog
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