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Corona virus daily thread #35

Posted on 04/02/2020 9:56:02 AM PDT by Mariner

Yesterday is here:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3830614/posts?q=1&;page=1


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To: cgbg
said, "I won’t believe any numbers until this is over."

Then what is the threat then?

If you use death rates per confirmed cases it's LESS then the common flu.

Can some one explain to me why the urgency for this virus?

201 posted on 04/02/2020 1:18:22 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: In_Iowa_not_from

Thanks for that. I tend to spray those and kill em off. I have a garden with lettuce so all is good on the lettuce front.


202 posted on 04/02/2020 1:18:49 PM PDT by TermLimits4All (A Pandemic may result in bloodshed. Be prepared always.)
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To: All

Well, after hearing the Ohio press conference today, there’s going to be backlash against GOP anyone currently in government office not taking cuts/sacrifice


203 posted on 04/02/2020 1:22:15 PM PDT by Varsity Flight (QE 2020. All Quiet on the Western Front)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Steve:

You need to ask the White House, 10 Downing Street, the leaders of France, Russia, Israel etc etc etc.

They must know something we don’t—total mystery to me!


204 posted on 04/02/2020 1:23:05 PM PDT by cgbg (No more lies. Lies costs lives. Time for CDC to support diy masks.)
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To: cgbg
"You need to ask the White House, 10 Downing Street, the leaders of France, Russia, Israel etc etc etc.
They must know something we don’t—total mystery to me!"

Then they're doing this carte blanche without an explanation?
I can't be the only one asking. WHY?

205 posted on 04/02/2020 1:26:30 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn
Ok, lol, well if you want to know the real flu numbers not the “hyped CDC selling a vaccine” estimates, you may want to go here: https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html

You may be surprised to find out that your CDC has been misleading people for a very long time.

This same CDC is the one that bungled testing so badly that the US is weeks behind every other country, which kept us from being able to contain this virus, and leaving us with no other option than to mitigate.


206 posted on 04/02/2020 1:28:18 PM PDT by LilFarmer ("Everything we do before a pandemic will seem alarmist. Everything we do after will seem inadequate")
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To: Steve Van Doorn

why are u using 2017-18 stats 80K ?

2019-20 stats are 11K-22K


207 posted on 04/02/2020 1:30:37 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: Steve Van Doorn

One-term governor Bill Lee of Tennessee (a ‘Christian’ Republican...LOL!) just locked the state down.


208 posted on 04/02/2020 1:30:44 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...siameserescue.org)
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To: BobL
No Lockdown in Sweden

Saw were Sweden is having a change of heart. Tried to find the article but haven't been able to locate it.

209 posted on 04/02/2020 1:31:20 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: Steve Van Doorn

It is a total mystery.

Nowhere is it written that we dumb apes had a right to understand the universe.


210 posted on 04/02/2020 1:31:26 PM PDT by cgbg (No more lies. Lies costs lives. Time for CDC to support diy masks.)
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To: LilFarmer

was out taking a long walk in the woods..(nice to get out and any from this for a bit)

just a saw the France numbers

1355 new deaths

whats up with that?


211 posted on 04/02/2020 1:34:30 PM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: Steve Van Doorn

It runs from 1% of diagnosed cases early when medical care is available, to about 8% of diagnosed cases when the hospitals are full.

We saw both in Italy and Spain.


212 posted on 04/02/2020 1:34:50 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: janetjanet998

Can the France numbers be right?

That is strange indeed.


213 posted on 04/02/2020 1:35:29 PM PDT by cgbg (No more lies. Lies costs lives. Time for CDC to support diy masks.)
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To: amorphous

If you find the article on Sweden please let us know—all I see is articles from yesterday.


214 posted on 04/02/2020 1:37:11 PM PDT by cgbg (No more lies. Lies costs lives. Time for CDC to support diy masks.)
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To: cgbg

Can the France numbers be right?

That is strange indeed.


just saw something that they are now including deaths at home and nursing homes....I assume (hope) that this was a one time backlog catch up


215 posted on 04/02/2020 1:39:52 PM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: Steve Van Doorn

You want some “why” questions? Once you’ve got your base statistics right (see my post to you above) so you can really compare apples to apples, the “why” question really becomes, “why did our CDC, who hates Trump, and cried when he was elected, allow a known killer pathogen to spread on our soil unchecked? Why did they side with the WHO and CCP, and stand by silently while others blamed the President for the spread? Why did Pence have to move testing out of the CDC lab in Atlanta?

The argument is really long past week as to whether this virus is worse than the flu, the FBs really should be asking who is trying to undermine the president. FEMA allowed warehouses of Puerto Rico aid to sit empty to make Trump look bad, despite the death of thousands. You really think they won’t do the same again? Why haven’t they recommended masks? And gloves? Why do they play down the HCQ and other treatments?

For sure there are those in the CDC and other agencies who are drooling over the idea that this will Trump’s Katrina, but you and your ilk are still debating on whether a hurricane is coming. Dude, it’s already hit.

They have the same data as we do.

You are chasing the wrong villains here. It is not us. We are just tracking numbers.


216 posted on 04/02/2020 1:44:48 PM PDT by LilFarmer ("Everything we do before a pandemic will seem alarmist. Everything we do after will seem inadequate")
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To: Steve Van Doorn

one urgency: this virus kills medical workers and first responders, including EMTs, firemen and police

‘normal’ flu doesn’t kill healthy people; normal flu kills fragile individuals.

second urgency: R0 of flu less than 1 to 1.3. R0 of this - 2.5-5-?


217 posted on 04/02/2020 1:50:21 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: cgbg

I keep seeing 471 new hospital deaths in France..

but both worldometers and BNO have that 1355 number


218 posted on 04/02/2020 1:51:32 PM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: All

“Clark County suspends union contract for UMC health care workers”

- see https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/politics-and-government/clark-county/clark-county-suspends-union-contract-for-umc-health-care-workers-1996569/


219 posted on 04/02/2020 1:51:35 PM PDT by Fury
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To: cgbg

K, trying to put together something for Van Dorn now, will look again.


220 posted on 04/02/2020 1:52:35 PM PDT by amorphous
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