Posted on 03/30/2020 5:01:58 AM PDT by impimp
The American death rate will be far lower than the Italian and Spanish death rates - even with falsely attributing deaths of people with severe preconditions to Corona. Expensive drug cocktails recommended by Trump are helping many people. This will wind up being approximately as deadly as the h1n1 flu of a decade ago. Fauci is wrong to say 100-200k will die.
My concern is for the greater harm this shutdown will have on the economic lives of people and for the loss of constitutional rights. Hoping for an Easter end to this lockdown - end of April is excessive.
Probably the wrong video to post on the Flubro thread...
And, NO ONE is contending this should merely be treated like the flu. What many of us want is to follow the South Korea model -- protect the vulnerable and self-isolate those with it but let healthy people continue to live their lives.
Appropriate, reasonable given the media narrative, which he usually has the ability to shape but not so much in this case - but not his best work. And 30 April is too long, so that is what is not appropriate. He may under promise and over deliver here, which is what I hope.
Poor elderly diet with poor absorption of nutrients is the health issue to address. All in the 50+ group need specific attention to D3 and Zinc.
So here you are, posting virus vanities as if you have more information than our president. You should be embarrassed.
What a great picture
I think I know better because I know the natural CYA (cover your ass) biases of experts. I think the Flubros know better.
People get stuck on only part of what is said and leave out context. That’s lie of omission. Dr Fauchi and Dr. Birx also said;
“the model is just predictive a lot can change.”
“models are only as good as the assumptions they are built on”.
The UK model ours were based on was revised down by a factor of 25 last week! All too often these models are GIGO, garbage in garbage out.
And there you have it.
Trump has the weight of the world on his shoulders, he fights for us daily while you claim to know it all.
PS: Do you mind if I give this post of yours a screen shot? It deserves to be enjoyed by everyone.
“ Other than those 2 funerals, the #1 spread of the virus has been church services. The pastors, the congregations knew they would be passing the virus and held church services anyway. That is not pro-life behavior.”
I assume that is opinion. I know of no evidence of this.
And the gospel should be live preached, baptisms performed, communion taken, and fervent corporate prayers made now more than ever. We can wear masks and sit sex feet apart. Doesn’t mean we have to have simulated worship like...Sims.
If Patient Zero sneezed in Wuhan in November, this Chinese Virus already bounced around New York City and had a complimentary virus sent back with a "Merry Christmas".
Any mortality numbers are useless without knowing the total number who have already been infected and overcome it. Comorbidity is critical as well, not to downplay the virus but to make sure those with additional risks are treated accordingly because quarantining everybody is not an answer. In fact, quarantining everybody only makes it worse - sure, close the college and send the sick kids back home to the family. Shut down New York City and watch them all head to Florida to be with the grandparents.
This is a Blue State Virus pushed by bankrupt states such as New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Illinois, and California that don't care what they do to the economy because they haven't been a part of any of the growth under Trump.
If you want proof of their hypocrisy, anyone who really cared about spreading a deadly illness would be:
-for stopping illegal immigration, including building a border wall, instead of encouraging "sanctuary cities"
-for putting mentally ill homeless people in controlled environments instead of scattering them everywhere and suing businesses for trying to keep them away from their doorways
-locking up individuals who defecate in public instead of suing municipalities that try to stop such behavior
-for banning disease-ridden reusable shopping bags instead of banning single-use plastic
-against forcing taxpayers and drivers to subsidize germ-carrying mass transit
-against deviant behavior which spreads contagions
-against high-risk individuals donating blood
...and yet the leftists in these bailout seeking states have pushed for all of these detrimental behaviors.
The blue state agenda is only going to get worse as more businesses and individuals flee them. The only thing that won't change from these states is how far they'll go to lie or force you to give them your money.
How many businesses are already not renewing office leases or held off on new leases in New York City because they can't afford to operate in an environment where they get locked out for months while the state plays the bailout game? ...and what do you think their departure is going to do to the desperation level of these socialists watching them go?
This is just the beginning of the next level of socialistic globalism.
For crying out loud, so many here are like the press with Trump trying for a gotcha moment.
What is your point and so many other’s point here???
She said it!
I’ve been listening to her since this thing started.
Of course it was based on a model.
But in this instance, she believed that number!!! She seems like a very impressive woman and doctor so I am going with what she said.
I’ve asked many before and I’ll ask you. What is your point?
I trust my judgement on character. Trump obviously trusts this woman. And do you think he is simply listening blind and not assessing the studies himself?
Yes, I hope and pray she is wrong. I’m sure she feels the same. But for now I will trust doctors like her that I can listen to with my own ears and also know they are trusted by Trump. I believe they are solid experts. I believe they want to save lives. And that is A Lot of lives!
You have a sentence on your profile page that would be an indication that you are a Christian.
Do you think it is God that whispers such prideful thoughts in your ear?
I know one.
My sister who lives about a half hour away from me knows 2 others, one of whom had lunch with her husband 14 days prior to his diagnosis. My BIL was contacted by the local health department (Virginia is doing a good job at contact tracing, so far), but as of now he is okay.
I have a niece who lives and works in LA. She recently relocated into her parents home in Orange County, CA to get out of LA. She is working remotely from there.
A few days after she moved in with her parents, she was contacted by someone she worked with who had tested positive. My niece had socialized with her a few days before that.
I don’t know why others here don’t have similar experiences. Perhaps it is because a lot of you don’t live on either the East or West coast.
I can’t speak like St Augustine and false humility only serves to make me appear less confident than I am that the Flubros are right. Passionately advocating for a position is not anti-Christian.
We live on the west coast/California and have relatives in the East Coast. One is back in California after her college cancelled classes a little over a week ago on the east coast. She knew of no one with the virus there or here.
Our families and friends are not on welfare, and we would not be considered elites, who may be getting the front load of this virus. Nor do we live in poverty nor Hollywood mansions.
“Respiratory viruses, Mr. Snowden says, tend to be socially indiscriminate in whom they infect. Yet because of its origins in the vectors of globalization, the coronavirus appears to have affected the elite in a high-profile way,” the Journal piece states. “From Tom Hanks to Boris Johnson, people who travel frequently or are in touch with travelers have been among the first to get infected.”
The infection of thousands of the nation’s rich and upper-middle-class has driven class warfare in regions like the Hamptons in New York where some of the wealthiest, most liberal celebrities own property.
A report by Maureen Callahan for the New York Post chronicles how the working class staff of the Hamptons’ elite are turning on them as those infected disregard rules and Center for Disease Control (CDC) guidelines:
“There’s not a vegetable to be found in this town right now,” says one resident of Springs, a working-class pocket of East Hampton. “It’s these elitist people who think they don’t have to follow the rules.” [Emphasis added]
It’s not just the drastic food shortage out here. Every aspect of life, most crucially medical care, is under strain from the sudden influx of rich Manhattanites panic-fleeing … — and in some cases, knowingly bringing coronavirus. [Emphasis added]
“We’re at the end of Long Island, the tip, and waves of people are bringing this s–t,” says lifelong Montauker James Katsipis. “We should blow up the bridges. Don’t let them in.” [Emphasis added]
While globalization has delivered soaring profits for corporate executives, working- and middle-class American communities have been left behind to grapple with fewer jobs, less industry, stagnant wages, and increase competition in the labor market due to decades-long mass legal immigration.
Since 2001, free trade with China has cost millions of Americans their jobs. For example, the Economic Policy Institute has found that from 2001 to 2015, about 3.4 million U.S. jobs were lost due to the nation’s trade deficit with China.
Excerpted: ( Read more at breitbart.com …)
Pandemic Historian: ‘Coronavirus a Disease of Globalization’.......
breitbart. ^ | 3/29/2020 | John Binder
beautiful............. DJT smiles
It’s not the precaution that bothers me, it’s
the simpering platitudes. “Stay safe”...how
can you be 100% safe against a virus?
“You can improve your life while cooped
up like a leper, here’s how...”
Where is the repercussions for China, who
has shown its worst side in this situation as a
malicious country at worst and an irresponsible, indifferent
one at best? Their bat chomping wet market ways
will die hard, if at all.
I also think outside of the hopeless mental cases on the street
even our biggest everyday slobs have been given
pause and are maybe cleaning up their act, but I
doubt that too. The next (D)generate regime will
amplify this sociopathy by importing Chicom
immigrants by the Chinese junkload and create
another sampandemic
Too bad Rand loves open borders
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