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Corona Virus Daily Thread #28

Posted on 03/26/2020 10:14:19 AM PDT by Mariner

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To: PA Engineer

Really good vid. Doctors like this are a blessing from God, and at the same time need our prayers.

Many good points are made, including the prefilter over the N95 mask. And getting outside some!

I wonder if there is up to date tracking of hospital admissions overall, and (probably would have a bit of lag due to the time needed for test results to come back) hospital admissions for COVID-19, particularly in hotspots like NYC.

It certainly does not sound like we have kicked the virus’ behind in NYC...


841 posted on 03/27/2020 4:25:36 AM PDT by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left wort h controlling.)
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To: wastoute

Found this from Wuhan.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2763184?appId=scweb

“Among the 67 patients who received mechanical ventilation, 44 (65.7%) died, 14 (20.9%) were discharged from the hospital, and 9 (13.4%) remained hospitalized. The median time from admission to developing ARDS was 2 days (IQR, 1-4 days). All of the patients who died had developed ARDS and received mechanical ventilation.”


842 posted on 03/27/2020 4:30:48 AM PDT by FreedomForce
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UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson tests positive for coronavirus

Over the last 24 hours I have developed mild symptoms and tested positive for coronavirus.

I am now self-isolating, but I will continue to lead the government’s response via video-conference as we fight this virus.

Together we will beat this. #StayHomeSaveLives pic.twitter.com/9Te6aFP0Ri— Boris Johnson #StayHomeSaveLives (@BorisJohnson) March 27, 2020


843 posted on 03/27/2020 4:31:55 AM PDT by deks
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To: FreedomForce

So about a third of those who got intubated survived. Around 0.5% give or take 0.3%, estimating. So when the smoke clears the drugs might have saved a third of the est. 5,000 total deaths. IOW even if they work the drugs will make a difference to at best a couple thousand people. Not to be too callous but at this time it’s statistically trivial.


844 posted on 03/27/2020 4:33:48 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

But if the drugs are given early enough to stop the disease from progressing to ARDS? If the drugs can do that.


845 posted on 03/27/2020 4:45:22 AM PDT by FreedomForce
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To: 21twelve

Thank you.

That helps a lot.


846 posted on 03/27/2020 6:05:45 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: wastoute
Not to be too callous but at this time it’s statistically trivial.

Not to the people who survive.

Sometimes it's about more than stats.

The value of a human life cannot be measured in numbers.

847 posted on 03/27/2020 6:42:16 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

The decisions you make to get the most people into the life boat have to be unemotional. Take the Army’s Course in Combat Casualties. You learn how to make all these choices. On the battlefield. Where these choices belong. Not in the ER like they are doing in every urban center right now.


848 posted on 03/27/2020 6:45:07 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: blueplum

Wonderful news!


849 posted on 03/27/2020 6:53:56 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: FreedomForce

Amy K’s husband has gone from coughing up blood with pneumonia to doing fine..with no mention of his treatment.


850 posted on 03/27/2020 6:54:59 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: All

It’s upsetting to see that Prime Minister Boris Johnson is infected.

I think if he succumbs to the disease, it will have a big impact on people’s attitudes, and feelings, especially in the UK.

I think it will scare a lot of people. Hopefully that would result in positive behavioral changes, but I’m not sure. It could go either way.


851 posted on 03/27/2020 6:55:08 AM PDT by BusterDog
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To: RummyChick

Now Matt Hancock tests positive for coronavirus: Health Secretary confirms he has killer virus TOO - just over an hour after Boris Johnson revealed he has the disease

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8159701/Boris-Johnson-tests-positive-coronavirus-crisis-grips-UK.html


852 posted on 03/27/2020 6:56:08 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: wastoute
From what it sounds like once they are that sick they don’t come back. If that’s the case we don’t need ventilators at all.

There seems to be a move to make that policy. If a patient on a ventilator has a poor prognosis for ever recovering, it's DNR and perhaps termination.

853 posted on 03/27/2020 6:56:52 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: BusterDog

he wont succumb to it...he will get miracle drugs , plasma therapy...everything you can imagine that might work


854 posted on 03/27/2020 6:56:58 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: metmom

“Not to be too callous but at this time it’s statistically trivial.”

Whenever I hear people talk like this, and year after year I seem to hear it more, I think, “Ok, if that’s so, we will start with you, or your mom, or your kids.”


855 posted on 03/27/2020 6:58:01 AM PDT by BusterDog
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To: RummyChick

‘I’ve coughed until my throat bled’: Nashville woman, 21, who bragged about not taking coronavirus seriously and scoffed at social distancing now regrets it after testing positive

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8159161/Nashville-woman-21-contracts-coronavirus-just-days-boasting-social-media-wont-it.html


856 posted on 03/27/2020 6:58:55 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Myrddin

When the ER is on fire you have no choice. Battlefield decisions. Airway, breathing, circulation, eyes, ey, upper extremity, lower extremity. Succession of priorities as resources are available. Lastly, life. No body’s vision gets preserved until everybody is pink.


857 posted on 03/27/2020 6:59:15 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: RummyChick

“he wont succumb to it...he will get miracle drugs , plasma therapy...everything you can imagine that might work”

That’s a part of what I’m saying, people will think they pulled out all the stops for him. If he dies, what hope do they have?


858 posted on 03/27/2020 7:00:06 AM PDT by BusterDog
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To: Myrddin

In battle it’s called “The Black Tag”.


859 posted on 03/27/2020 7:00:09 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

Unmasking the Truth: CDC and Hospital Administrators Are Endangering Us All

https://medium.com/@CynicalXennial/unmasking-the-truth-cdc-and-hospital-administrators-are-endangering-us-all-b601012f81be


860 posted on 03/27/2020 7:03:39 AM PDT by RummyChick
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