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Corona Virus Daily Thread #26

Posted on 03/24/2020 10:11:11 AM PDT by Mariner

Thread #25 here:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3827443/posts?page=1


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To: impimp
On this thread it was stated that the CFR of 4% meant that 4% of those who get infected will die - that is WRONG. This is due to the fact that not a random sample are tested.

No, it is wrong because it includes those who get infected, rather than those who are diagnosed. The CFR is all about those who are diagnosed. Random sampling has nothing to do with it.

Didn't you even read the definition you shoved in my face a few posts ago?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Case_fatality_rate

421 posted on 03/24/2020 2:38:30 PM PDT by scouter (As for me and my household... We will serve the LORD.)
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To: Black Agnes

Lol when they find find a pantry full of wheat berries and canned green beans... “Where are the potato chips? Waaaahhh!”


422 posted on 03/24/2020 2:38:32 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: cgbg

Europeans abandon their elderly parents as a habit. Remember the tens of thousands that died in France as a result of a heatwave?


423 posted on 03/24/2020 2:38:37 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Black Agnes

They just shut down the entire sub continent for 21 days. “It happening.”


424 posted on 03/24/2020 2:39:14 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: amorphous

well, that’s the point isn’t it - to protect our doctors, nurses, first responders, from being exposed to ‘huge viral loads’

viral loads they may be exposed to from say, spring breakers and basement dwellers all of a sudden affronted by the thought of not being able to do the socialization they don’t do anyway - Who think, ‘if I get sick I get sick’ but not thinking that someone has to take care of their selfish selves when they do get sick.


425 posted on 03/24/2020 2:39:54 PM PDT by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: cgbg

I’ve been saying on these threads, GA is hot. LA is next.


426 posted on 03/24/2020 2:40:26 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: kaila

please provide evidence of herd immunity from any country in the world re: Wuhan Virus. It’s not in Iran, not in Italy, not in Spain, not in France, not even in China or Hong Kong. In fact, a second infection from Wuhan Virus (or, perhaps more rightly, a resurgence of the original infection in a patient) appears to be more fatal than the first.


427 posted on 03/24/2020 2:42:32 PM PDT by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: kaila

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6JrkLvsKtw

Dr. Campbell explains this very simply. Take a look at his videos. They are most informative. Please, just use 18 minutes on this.


428 posted on 03/24/2020 2:42:34 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: LilFarmer

DC area is burnt toast. Sad to say. Hoping the buzz about the malaria drug is true.


429 posted on 03/24/2020 2:42:52 PM PDT by CJ Wolf ( #wwg1wga #gin&tonic)
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To: SheepWhisperer
On what ?
He made no decision .
He hid .
He let Spring breakers infected the state .
Did you miss the photos of S Fl and Clearwater beach ?
See any social distancing ?
Look at the infected cases in S Fla like Broward 311, Dade 338 , Palm beach 101 , Tampa 91.
Those counties each have more cases than many states .
We are at NYC exponential virus growth with NYC fleeing here .
He wants to quarantine passengers when no one is flying anymore .
Look at incoming NY / NJ plates on I 95 .
In total FL has 1,414 case .
His donors wanted the cash no matter what the price .
Our hospitals will be paying with a second NYC infected wave here .
430 posted on 03/24/2020 2:43:06 PM PDT by ncalburt (Gop DC Global)
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To: Vermont Lt

China was the first to try Chloriquine. Published a paper in late January. Peak Prosperity highlighted it. The flu bros are gonna get reamed. Setup by China again.


431 posted on 03/24/2020 2:43:09 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Mariner

task force press conference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwEqukk-Q_8


432 posted on 03/24/2020 2:44:04 PM PDT by Pollard (shadowbanned)
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To: cgbg
I am 60. My husband is 65 and has a high risk medical condition. We will probably do okay since I prepped back in December, and I know how to deglove , wear a mask, and I have a stock of Lysol, plus a huge amount of food, gloves and masks.
Do I think it is fair to people 99 out of a hundred to live in poverty so a bunch of 70 to 80 year olds ( maybe including my family) live?
If the hospitals get overwhelmed, those 70 to 80 year olds are going to be allowed to die in favor of treating the young.
433 posted on 03/24/2020 2:44:25 PM PDT by kaila
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To: impimp

I quoted you directly, not the prior poster. If someone else reads you words, they come to the same result I did.

Yes, the CFR is nowhere near 4! But the CFR for influenza (without pneumonia) is less than .5%. Let’s get real here, Wuhanic Plague is more easily transferred, creates far more ICU stays for longer periods than all strains of influenza combined.

Now let’s go back to the source, shall we?

China has influenza on a major scale, annually. It is as normal there each fall/winter as it is here, except the numbers are MUCH larger. Does China shutter its economy and quarantine 700 million people for the flu? Hell no! They will gladly sacrifice millions of their own just so Xi Jinping can brag about fictional growth figures.

Their people are in three classes: Party members, workers, and organ donors. Remember that.

So if China shut down, it was either because this crap was killing Party members in large numbers, or this was indeed a bioweapon that they released. Take your pick. China is STILL shut down - look at the container data for what is arriving here! The supply chain from China is severed.

You might manage other people’s money - good for you - but I pity them. You’re a fool on a grand scale.


434 posted on 03/24/2020 2:45:13 PM PDT by datura
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To: SheepWhisperer

Jumping in for a short educational moment.

The way that Emergency Prepardedness is set up in the country is that the responsibility lies at the state level. That is where planning, budgeting, training and facilitation is supposed to happen. 99% of this stuff is local—hurricanes, earthquakes, etc. each area has their “thing.” My area is blizzards and ice storms. The same plan applies to the occasional hurricane.

FEMA is deployed as a back up. They are mostly the folks that coordinate federal support. If you recall, part of the problem with Katrina was that Bush did not nationalize it and the Governor did not act well.

So, this is the 1% of incidents: War and pandemic. Trump has not done a good job explaining how all this is supposed to work. The focus should be on the states’ public health departments. The county health commissioner is really the tip of the spear in most of the US.


435 posted on 03/24/2020 2:45:24 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Mariner

Well #26 has gone to shit.


436 posted on 03/24/2020 2:46:55 PM PDT by Pollard (shadowbanned)
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To: goodnesswins

Also essential businesses, which I’m pretty sure includes essential government offices, also.

Last time I rode it was last Thursday. There was one guy who surely had it way on the other end of the car from me. He was lying down on the bench and coughing his head off. Just seemed really sick.

They were supposed to be getting all these contagious types off the cars and out of the stations, but I guess they hadn’t gotten to this one yet.

Rest of the car was almost empty. Easy to keep 6 feet away from others.


437 posted on 03/24/2020 2:47:03 PM PDT by firebrand
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438 posted on 03/24/2020 2:47:51 PM PDT by BusterDog
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To: In_Iowa_not_from

Good Lord...save me from silver plate souvenir spoon collections. “This one is quite valuable!”

No. It’s not. It’s junk.


439 posted on 03/24/2020 2:47:54 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: kaila

I am not sure you understand what a crashed health care system looks like.

Do some research on some poor third world countries.

There will be highly infected people in the hallways, outside in tents.

There will be armed guards preventing _anyone_ new from entering, _anyone_.

The triage will just be for folks who make it inside.

Most young people will never get that far.


440 posted on 03/24/2020 2:47:56 PM PDT by cgbg (BOLO--escaped SNF resident--Joe Biden)
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