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To: MplsSteve
So you really are just an obtuse fella, aren't you Steve. It doesn't take a doctor to realize the truth and not just act like a panicked fool. BTW, just for the record Dr. DeLong was my father, but through his associations I knew plenty of doctors and thus learned a lot from them. One important thing I learned was not all doctors are brilliant, even though they were all well educated. Just look around, many doctors and many differences of opinion abound. Even among those who study viruses. Some are even panicky fools just like you apparently are.

So far only .0001166486% of those in this country have been identified as confirmed cases. Death from the virus so far is only .000015571% of those in this country.

So far .11142857% have been hospitalized by the flu in just the U.S., and deaths have been .00657143%. This has been a milder year for the U.S I might add.

So far only .00478361% of the world has been confirmed infected and only 00020915% have died.

You can see the flu has caused more deaths in just the U.S., in a mild year, than have died worldwide from CoVid-19 so far.

Do not allow yourself to be so panicked by this. The numbers just do not justify it. Besides it is not good for your immune system to become stressed. So you are hurting yourself directly, as well as, many others indirectly.

The panic has been generated by a press who are desperate to bring down President Trump. They are the sole cause of the panic. Though we have had much worse, at least so far, viruses hit us they remained silent. In fact they remained silent in 2009, or at lest did not make a big deal of it, when the H1N1 virus took 12,000 lives in this country. Because the Messiah was the resident occupying the White House at that time. Don't assist them in succeeding.

134 posted on 03/23/2020 1:07:41 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

This is a very smart guy with no political axe to grind.

Please take a look—you can start at three weeks ago to understand his points:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD2-QVBQi48RRQTD4Jhxu8w


135 posted on 03/23/2020 1:10:22 PM PDT by cgbg (BOLO--escaped SNF resident--Joe Biden)
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To: Robert DeLong

Thank you, Dr. DeLong.


137 posted on 03/23/2020 1:12:42 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: Robert DeLong
"So far only .0001166486% of those in this country have been identified as confirmed cases. Death from the virus so far is only .000015571% of those in this country.

So far .11142857% have been hospitalized by the flu in just the U.S., and deaths have been .00657143%. This has been a milder year for the U.S I might add.

So far only .00478361% of the world has been confirmed infected and only 00020915% have died."


That's some angry FluBro math right there. It doesn't even begin to make sense, though. Really a foolish argument right from the get go.

Here is some reading for you to get up to speed on what's happening:

"Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE): Coronavirus (COVID-19) response"

https://www.gov.uk/government/groups/scientific-advisory-group-for-emergencies-sage-coronavirus-covid-19-response
140 posted on 03/23/2020 1:22:17 PM PDT by BusterDog
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To: Robert DeLong
Besides most of your vacuous flu broism rant, one thing caught my eye. It reflects the complete lack of understanding of this virus progression.

Besides it is not good for your immune system to become stressed.

Do you understand this?

Immunity will not protect you from your immune system.

You wonder why people see flu bros as suicide bombers.
167 posted on 03/23/2020 1:54:29 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Robert DeLong
You can see the flu has caused more deaths in just the U.S., in a mild year, than have died worldwide from CoVid-19 so far.

Yeah, so far.

Get back to us when we can compare apples to apples in a comparable time period and for the same geographic area.

So let's compare US stats with US and the whole year to date for the flu season to this at the end of the same time frame.

315 posted on 03/23/2020 4:05:41 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Robert DeLong

H1N1 apparently took about 0.03 percent of its victims, at most, in the US. Unfortunately, WuFlu appears to be taking about 1% to 4% of its victims (out of all confirmed cases), depending on the country, except in Italy, where it seems to be 8% or 9%. The ratio of deaths to total resolved cases is sometimes significantly higher.


342 posted on 03/23/2020 4:34:56 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: Robert DeLong

“The panic has been generated by a press who are desperate to bring down President Trump. “

so.....you want me to believe that the entire world, 145 countries, collapsed their economies, hired a bunch of crisis actors to pretend to be sick, just to bring down Trump.

differences between flu and Wuhan Virus:
doctors don’t drop dead because of infection with the flu
nurses don’t drop dead because of infection with the flu
people don’t drop dead on the street because of infection with flu
opportunistic bacterial infections caused by the flu can be treated with common antibiotics
the only antibiotic that seems partly effective with Wuhan Virus is Z-pak - the strongest antibiotic we have on the market
Ro of the flu is about 1.0. Ro of Wuhan Virus is 2-5. (tbd)
flu requires a short, if terminal, hospital stay and is generally viewed as an expected end-of-life event for the aged/disabled/physiologically compromised
Wuhan Virus doesn’t care what your age is, who you are, or what your existing or nonexisting morbidities are.
Flu usually doesn’t have lasting physiological effects. There is evidence that Wuhan Virus does have lasting or long term physiological effects.
Hospitals are able to compensate for annual flu cases without running out of personnel or supplies. Doubling or tripling the load with the introduction highly contagious pandemic or epidemic strains overloads those hospital resources

H1N1 was not a ‘normal’ flu for the US, only in the last few decades, and, should be looked at afresh as related to Jan/Feb international travel infectious routes. Without H1N1 annual epidemic, accepting that H1N1 is causative to 50% or more of annual flu deaths, ‘normal’ flu would be in the range of 10-20k deaths a year. And realistically less, as some of the very elderly can’t stand even a minimal strain to their aged immune systems.

Right now, America is laying siege to an enemy. An enemy that needs living bodies to reproduce. Our siege is buying time for scientists to win the war. Same as every war. Join the siege. Win the war.


407 posted on 03/23/2020 5:20:26 PM PDT by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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