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Corona Virus Daily Thread #24

Posted on 03/22/2020 10:17:36 AM PDT by Mariner

Daily thread #23 here:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3826809/posts?page=1


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: 24thread; chinavirus; covid19; cvlivethread; livethread
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Sen. Lee - self quarantined per Lookner. Spent two hours with Rand Paul at luncheon.


201 posted on 03/22/2020 1:16:01 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: bgill

he is up but cant hear him..sound really low


202 posted on 03/22/2020 1:17:10 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: bgill
Rand Paul had a closed door meeting with members of Congress on top of everything else.

I hope he got up close and personal with Nadler, Schiff, Pelosi, Hank Johnson, AOC, and Omar.

203 posted on 03/22/2020 1:18:20 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Jane Long

Somebody needs to get this idea to the CDC or the FDA.

Who in FReeperLand has connections?


204 posted on 03/22/2020 1:19:20 PM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill ( ERIC CIARAMELLA IS THE OBAMA MOLE HIDING BEHIND THE WHISTLEBLOWER LAWS)
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To: datura; Mariner; Black Agnes; null and void; cgbg; 9YearLurker; SeekAndFind; BenLurkin; ...

I think we have our own underreporting problems in the US. Here is a personal report I found at an article discussing the high rates of infection among our health care workers. Probably a result of fatigue, poor nutrition, and inadequate protective gear.

“Just had a long convo with my niece who is an administrator at a Long Island hospital. Oh, boy, that scared the hell out of me. Nurses and docs are not being given the proper protective equipment. More and more patients are coming in with the virus, crowding out other patients who are sent home...after they might have been exposed. Hospital beds are cut in half because virus patients must have a private room. Nurses are being repeatedly exposed, then not tested and told they cannot self-isolate without a positive test. Administrators behind computer screens are deciding which patients need to be isolated, against the recommendation of nursing staff. My niece says she’s never been so scared in her life. In her office, she sits one and a half feet from her co-worker, even though they are all aware of the 6 feet recommendation. Her brother works as an iron worker and she begged him to find her an N95 mask, which he stole from his job so she can have one at work...where they’ve been told they may not bring in outside masks. Doctors and nurses are going to die. Nursing staff is furious. In her opinion, under this f’d up system, the virus will never be eradicated. And very shortly they will be making the decisions that Italian doctors have had to make: deciding who gets a vent and who doesn’t. There is a twenty year old patient at the hospital on a vent now. This is all happening in the biggest/best hospital on Long Island, North Shore Hospital. What a tragedy.”

Since it seems more and more likely that more of us will be suffering on our own, here are things which we could do to protect our health that are not being advised on media. Since we might not be able to use a hospital or even a doctor, the interesting and promising drugs currently talked about would not be available. What is available is Vitamins and other supplements. Vitamin C and Vitamin D and zinc seem to be the most promising. Animals our size produce from 2 to 4 grams (2000 to 4000 milligrams) a day. Our government recommendation is 90 milligrams a day. For more than 45 years I have taken 3 to 6 grams a day in divided doses for my allergies—house dust, cigarette, cool weather molds, ragweed. I start the day with 1 or 2 grams. When my nose gets stuffed up or I start sneezing I take another gram, and 1 at bedtime. Typically the body uses it up in 5 or 6 hours, or excretes what is too much. This can cause burning urine or acid farts. I have taken as much as 24 grams in a day with a severe flu infection. No urinary or bowel symptoms of overdose. I once helped a woman who forgot her bee sting kit. Three yellow jackets had stung her neck, her eyes were swollen shut, and she was choking and breathless. I immediately gave her 10 grams of C crushed and in a glass of water. In twenty minutes her eyes were open and the choking had stopped. I gave her 5 grams of C an hour until at 8 hours she said she felt better and wanted to sleep. The next day she hiked 3 miles out of the campground. With a total of 50 grams of C in 8 hours, she had no bladder or bowel symptoms of overdose.

Regarding Vitamin D, it affects function of 2000 of our genes. Past recommendations have been to take 400 IUs a day. Recently this has been increased to double. My son who gets winter depression (SAD) was told by his doctor to take 5000 IU a day. I have started taking 2000 to 4000 a day. Zinc is also supposed to be helpful. It can be found in a good multivitamin/mineral daily tablet. It is also in Calcium/Magnesium/Zinc tablets. I take 1 multi morning and evening, also 1 or 2 C/M/Z a day. At 81, I am in good health and doing light construction work on my property. Hopefully I will continue in that condition. Don’t be afraid to help yourself if the medical profession is not available.


205 posted on 03/22/2020 1:20:01 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: bgill

Watching Abbott’s presser now.

Are you?


206 posted on 03/22/2020 1:21:32 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: cgbg

When you see the apocalypse you’ve just described ping me. Is any US hospital overwhelmed? The Washington medical services certainly weren’t overwhelmed when they dealt with the most serious outbreak yet. Who has been denied a ventilator? We have obviously had this in our country since early January. 80 days in, show me some proof.


207 posted on 03/22/2020 1:21:41 PM PDT by hardspunned
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To: gleeaikin

Catch 22 on steroids...


208 posted on 03/22/2020 1:22:53 PM PDT by cgbg (BOLO--escaped SNF resident--Joe Biden)
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To: hardspunned

Wait a week...


209 posted on 03/22/2020 1:23:25 PM PDT by cgbg (BOLO--escaped SNF resident--Joe Biden)
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To: cgbg

I’ll be here.


210 posted on 03/22/2020 1:24:48 PM PDT by hardspunned
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To: bgill

With Abbott’s EO, to direct hospitals to postpone any elective, or non-life saving surgeries.

He’s also EOd nursing situation...retired, students, etc.

EOd regs to allow 2/patients/room, in every facility.

These measures will increase TXs bed situation by 50%.


211 posted on 03/22/2020 1:25:42 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Alcibiades

Thanks. I was trying to figure out the low death rate in Germany. They are becoming worse than Panda land.


212 posted on 03/22/2020 1:26:26 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: bgill

Abbott naming several docs to assist with statewide procurement and logistics.


213 posted on 03/22/2020 1:26:47 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Jane Long

Doctors say coronavirus patients often feel better right before their condition dramatically worsens and they end up hospitalized

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8140411/Doctors-say-coronavirus-patients-feel-better-right-condition-dramatically-worsens.html


214 posted on 03/22/2020 1:26:54 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: PA Engineer

It could be they are classifying most death cases as pneumonia and not CV.

We will have to wait for more info to see if that is true or not.


215 posted on 03/22/2020 1:28:55 PM PDT by cgbg (BOLO--escaped SNF resident--Joe Biden)
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To: calenel
I am firmly of the opinion at this time that the media hyped panic and the FluBros are just two sides of the Panda Propaganda agitprop. Tell them A and tell them B and laugh while they fight it out.

It's one of the games described in the book Games People Play. It's called "Let's you and him fight."

Very effective in distracting people from what you don't want them to see.

216 posted on 03/22/2020 1:30:03 PM PDT by scouter (As for me and my household... We will serve the LORD.)
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To: bgill

Penalties for not following existing executive orders/hc emergency orders.

Shelter in place has been raised.

We need to see the levels of effectiveness of exisiting orders.

Many counties in TX have 0.

Cases are increasing.

What may be right for places with large urban areas, might not be right for other TX counties.

Local officials have authority to order stricter standards...they have fuller authority.

At this time, not appropriate to mandate across TX.

Will remain flexible to take further measures to combat.

Meantime...EVERYONE in the State of TX to know and understand exisiting EO orders....no gatherings more than 10, drive thru restaurants, only.


217 posted on 03/22/2020 1:30:46 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: RummyChick

That is so scary :(


218 posted on 03/22/2020 1:31:28 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
Almost all lupus patients take chloroquine daily.

It's listed as an occasional use for Lupus and RA. I have Lupus and have never had it suggested. It's probably reserved for advanced cases considering it's known side effects. If a chinese bio-weapon patient is aware of the risk then it should be made available.

219 posted on 03/22/2020 1:31:41 PM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Is it time Claire?)
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To: RummyChick

“Doctors say coronavirus patients often feel better right before their condition dramatically worsens and they end up hospitalized”

This explains the videos of the people falling out, they get through what they think is the worst of it, they head down to the store to pick up a few things, then boom . . . .


220 posted on 03/22/2020 1:31:46 PM PDT by BusterDog
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