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Utah earthquake damages Mormon temple and knocks trumpet from iconic angel statue
CNN ^ | 1:08 PM ET, Wed March 18, 2020 | Daniel Burke

Posted on 03/18/2020 4:48:53 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion

A statue of the Angel Moroni sits atop the Salt Lake Temple in a 2015 photo. The temple was damaged Wednesday in an earthquake that also dislodged Moroni's trumpet.

(CNN)The 5.7-magnitude earthquake that shook Utah Wednesday morning also dislodged a symbolic part of Salt Lake City's iconic Mormon temple: the trumpet of an angel statue atop its highest spire.

The temple is the spiritual focal point for the 16 million members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

"The trumpet on the Angel Moroni statue fell off, and there is minor displacement of some of the temple's smaller spire stones," said Daniel Woodruff, a spokesman for the church.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Education; Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: cults; lds; miltromley; mormon; mormonic; portent; trumpets; utah
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To: daniel1212
Therefore (in accordance e with your judgment) God can be an exalted bird, which would blasphemous as is your married corporeal-bodied god calling himself that of the Bible. And making Christ (the "arm" of the Lord) a married brother of Lucifer. Give it up.

+1

281 posted on 03/24/2020 7:18:15 PM PDT by Mark17 (Father of US Air Force Officer, 2/3 of the way through USAF pilot training. One more aircraft to fly)
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To: Mark17
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282 posted on 03/24/2020 7:20:27 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Elsie
Who wins by responding with MORMON scripture?

Ain't nobody got time for that!

283 posted on 03/24/2020 7:21:02 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Not even Mormons!


284 posted on 03/24/2020 7:22:07 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
I'd hate to outright call you a LIAR; but

Doesn't a mormon have to answer the Temple Recommend questions every year?

And isn't one of those whether the person is honest in his dealings with his fellow man??

285 posted on 03/24/2020 7:23:45 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Elsie

Apparently not!


286 posted on 03/24/2020 7:24:36 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: daniel1212

Our relationship with God is obviously spiritual, as that is how we communicate with him through prayer.

Yet, again, we are told in Genesis that we are created in God’s image. I’m assuming that the scripture means that God has an image that looks more or less like man.

Is taking this scripture at face value somehow blasphemous?


287 posted on 03/24/2020 9:16:33 PM PDT by teppe
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To: daniel1212

Thank-you for your reasoned reply ... except for the anti-mormon fake news/slander .... sorry I try not to respond in-kind but I sometimes fail to turn the other cheek.

First of all, of course I believe that Christ is divine. He is the only-begotten son of the Father, Almighty God.

Since Mary experienced a normal pregnancy and birth,
Christ grew from a babe to manhood completely passable as a normal human being. Obviously Christ had 46 chromosmes, 23 were from Mary .... any idea where Christ’s other 23 chromosomes came from?

But don’t take my word for it, ....

“John 3:16. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”

So as I understand it .... you don’t believe that Christ was the only begotten Son of God?


288 posted on 03/24/2020 9:36:39 PM PDT by teppe
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To: Elsie

Sorry Elsie .... but you need counseling.

Just think if you spent half as much energy rejoicing in Christ as you spend in trying to destroy peoples faith in Christ....


289 posted on 03/24/2020 9:42:06 PM PDT by teppe
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To: daniel1212; aMorePerfectUnion

Did you know that Emperor Theodosius made the Nicene Creed’s final triumph by forcing belief upon threat of execution through the ‘Eddict of Thesalonica’ in 380 AD?

Somehow .... I never thought that was how Christ desired that his Doctrine should be established.


290 posted on 03/24/2020 9:54:44 PM PDT by teppe
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To: Iscool; daniel1212; aMorePerfectUnion; Godzilla; Norski

I just thought of another awesome scripture that contradicts the whole ‘Triune’ doctrine:

Matthew 27:46

46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

This particular scripture makes perfect sense to me. Jesus the Christ calling to Almighty God, his father in heaven.

Anyone care to explain to me how the non-biblical Triune God managed to forsake himself at the time when he needed himself the most?


291 posted on 03/24/2020 10:10:44 PM PDT by teppe
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
I figured that would throw you for a loop. 🤗 OK, in layman’s terms, I will try to explain those concepts, though for someone not familiar with aviation, it still might be difficult. MSA=minimum safe altitude within 100 nautical miles, self explanatory. MVAC=minimum vectoring altitude chart. Establishes the minimum altitude, that aircraft under radar control, can be given radar control instructions. Sometimes super imposed on the radar scope, though after using it, the controller totally memorizes the chart, and doesn’t need it. SID=standard instrument departure. STAR=standard terminal arrival route. Both SID and STAR use navigational aids, that pilots navigate off of. TACAN=tactical air navigation. The frequency is classified, but is UHF. They go by channels. IE, Channel 49 etc. TACAN also has DME (distance measuring equipment) VOR=VHF Omni range, frequency in not classified. Does not have DME, but VOR DME does. Both TACAN and VOR put out theoretically an infinite number of radials, but only 360 are useable (001 to 360) Pilots navigate off TACANs and VORs, both enroute and in terminal areas, following radial and DME. RNAV=area navigation. I am not so familiar with it, but as far as I know, aircraft go from point to point, rather than radial and DME. CAT 1 and 2 ILS=instrument landing system. It shows glide path and runway centerline information. CAT 2 being more accurate than CAT 1.
A year ago, my son had no clue what any of these meant. Now, he is an expert. He just finished learning instrument navigation.
There is another method, besides ILS. It’s called PAR=precision approach radar. When I was in Vietnam, with visibility near zero, I got many compliments from pilots, telling me I put him right dead on the runway centerline. I thought to myself, of course I did, you nerd. I know exactly what I am doing, and I am very good at what I do. That’s because, in the weather, pilots tended do exactly what they were told, so quite naturally, I put them down, dead on the runway centerline. 👍🤣✈️
I hammered it into my son’s head from day one. Do what the controller tells you to do, when he tells you to do it. 👍
292 posted on 03/24/2020 10:44:45 PM PDT by Mark17 (Father of US Air Force Officer, 2/3 of the way through USAF pilot training. One more aircraft to fly)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

It might be every two years.

What I DO know; is that the REQUIREMENT to do so is NOT found in ANY of the LDS scripture(s).


293 posted on 03/25/2020 4:46:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
I’m assuming ...

Their is part of your problem; taking ONE piece of scripture without using others similar to it.

More importantly; how do you know that the Genesis account is translated correctly?

If I were a Mormon I'd trust the words found in the BoM; which have been posted multiple times in this thread.

After all; you DO knw that it's TRUE; right?

294 posted on 03/25/2020 4:51:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
Is taking this scripture at face value somehow blasphemous?

I don't know your situation; as you'd have to answer the following question:


Is ignoring the scripture found in the BoM somehow blasphemous?


295 posted on 03/25/2020 4:53:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
Obviously Christ had 46 chromosmes,

Oh?

How do you KNOW this?

296 posted on 03/25/2020 4:55:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
But don’t take my word for it,

Should Mormons take the word of the Three Witnesses?


An 1830 statement titled "Testimony of Three Witnesses"—one statement signed by three men rather than three separate statements—was published at the end of the first edition of the Book of Mormon:

Be it known unto all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people, unto whom this work shall come: That we, through the grace of God the Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ, have seen the plates which contain this record, which is a record of the people of Nephi, and also of the Lamanites, his brethren, and also of the people of Jared, who came from the tower of which hath been spoken. And we also know that they have been translated by the gift and power of God, for his voice hath declared it unto us; wherefore we know of a surety that the work is true. And we also testify that we have seeen [sic] the engravings which are upon the plates; and they have been shewn unto us by the power of God, and not of man. And we declare with words of soberness, that an angel of God came down from heaven, and he brought and laid before our eyes, that we beheld and saw the plates, and the engravings thereon; and we know that it is by the grace of God the Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ, that we beheld and bear record that these things are true. And it is marvellous [sic] in our eyes. Nevertheless, the voice of the Lord commanded us that we should bear record of it; wherefore, to be obedient unto the commandments of God, we bear testimony of these things. And we know that if we are faithful in Christ, we shall rid our garments of the blood of all men, and be found spotless before the judgment-seat of Christ, and shall dwell with him eternally in the heavens. And the honor be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Ghost, which is one God. Amen.


297 posted on 03/25/2020 5:00:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
Sorry Elsie .... but you need counseling.

I'll listen.

Got a counselor handy?

Until then, I'll have to rely on the best one I know of...


John 14:16 RSV
And I will pray the Father, and he will give you another Counselor, to be with you for ever,

298 posted on 03/25/2020 5:05:30 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
Just think if you spent half as much energy rejoicing in Christ as you spend in trying to destroy peoples faith in Christ....


Sorry teppe; but you've written 2+2=5 on the blackboard once too often.


The teacher is going to correct you; but he will do so by pointing out your error; NOT by extolling the glories and purity of Mathematics all over again.

299 posted on 03/25/2020 5:09:10 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
Just think if you spent half as much energy rejoicing in Christ as you spend in trying to destroy peoples faith in Christ....


Sorry teppe; but you've failed to see that I am NOT trying to destroy your faith in Christ; just to destroy your faith in the false teachings about Him that now permeate your soul.


You have seen; with your own eyes; the words of your Scriptures, witnesses and leaders of Mormonism.

Why do you stubbornly insist that they are FALSE??

300 posted on 03/25/2020 5:12:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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