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To: Iscool; daniel1212; aMorePerfectUnion; Godzilla; Norski

I just thought of another awesome scripture that contradicts the whole ‘Triune’ doctrine:

Matthew 27:46

46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

This particular scripture makes perfect sense to me. Jesus the Christ calling to Almighty God, his father in heaven.

Anyone care to explain to me how the non-biblical Triune God managed to forsake himself at the time when he needed himself the most?


291 posted on 03/24/2020 10:10:44 PM PDT by teppe
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To: teppe
Anyone care to explain to me how the non-biblical Triune God managed to forsake himself at the time when he needed himself the most?

Ok; I'll counsel you.


Philippians 2:7 KJV

But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

As well as...

Hebrews 4:15 KJV:

"For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin."

303 posted on 03/25/2020 5:32:00 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
I just thought of another awesome scripture that contradicts the whole ‘Triune’ doctrine:
Matthew 27:46
46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
This particular scripture makes perfect sense to me. Jesus the Christ calling to Almighty God, his father in heaven.
Anyone care to explain to me how the non-biblical Triune God managed to forsake himself at the time when he needed himself the most?

We are not called on to understand everything God teaches us but we ARE called on to believe everything he teaches us...

We know God is a Trinity because he created man as a trinity (1Th. 5:23) and created man in his/their own image...

Did God give us any insight as to whether these trinitarian partners could disagree with each other???

Eph 4:22  That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
  Eph 4:23  And be renewed in the spirit of your mind; 
Eph 4:24  And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness. 

Rom 7:14  For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. 
Rom 7:15  For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
  Rom 7:16  If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
  Rom 7:17  Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 
Rom 7:18  For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
  Rom 7:19  For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
  Rom 7:20  Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
  Rom 7:21  I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. 
Rom 7:22  For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
  Rom 7:23  But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 
Rom 7:24  O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? 
Rom 7:25  I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. 

As we can see here, the 'trinity' in every man/woman can chose or fight to go its own way...

Can you explain how you and ALL others often debate with themselves over a decision??? It's so normal we don't even consider it...We as humans are three persons in one and when God the Holy Ghost enters us we often engage in that battle or war that the apostle Paul talks about...

So I don't worry about understanding how that all takes place but you can be sure I believe it does take place...

We are a trinity, who often don't agree with each other, just as God is a Trinity...

306 posted on 03/25/2020 6:28:41 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: teppe
I just thought of another awesome scripture that contradicts the whole ‘Triune’ doctrine:

Rather, this simply further displays what I charitably will assign to ignorance, rather than willful deceit.

Matthew 27:46 46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? This particular scripture makes perfect sense to me. Jesus the Christ calling to Almighty God, his father in heaven. Anyone care to explain to me how the non-biblical Triune God managed to forsake himself at the time when he needed himself the most?

Then since it seems that simply because you find this incomprehensible if Christ is God by nature, then you should find this incomprehensible as well: "thou, Lord, hast not forsaken them that seek thee." (Psalms 9:10) And "To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation." (2 Corinthians 5:19)

For how could God be in Christ ("the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works:" John 14:10) and yet forsake Himself? Do you think Christ sinned so that the Father left Christ, who said "the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him" (John 8:29) and God promises never to forsake the faithful?

Rather, the sense in which the Father forsook Christ was not by leaving Him, but by allowing Him to be crucified as an atonement for all the sins of mankind, as the scapegoat and sin offering foretold by Is. 53: All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. (Isaiah 53:6) Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand. (Isaiah 53:10)

Thus once again you either have a contradiction, of God forsaking the sinless Christ, or you must allow what comparing Scripture with Scripture teaches, that of "forsaking" meaning allowing Him to be treated as one forsaken in making atonement, in which the Father in a sense can hide His face for a moment, yet as actually forsaken His own.

Thus all that is left is your refusal to allow God to define "one" as referring to a composite vs. absolute oneness, and thus demand that God can only be one person, vs. one being, which as showed, means you have irreconcilable contradictions in Scripture, since Christ is said to be and shown to be God.

312 posted on 03/25/2020 7:37:34 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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