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‘It’s Just Everywhere Already’: How Delays in Testing Set Back the U.S. Coronavirus Response
NY Times ^ | March 11, 2020 | Sheri Fink and Mike Baker

Posted on 03/11/2020 5:55:44 AM PDT by C19fan

Dr. Helen Y. Chu, an infectious disease expert in Seattle, knew that the United States did not have much time.

In late January, the first confirmed American case of the coronavirus had landed in her area. Critical questions needed answers: Had the man infected anyone else? Was the deadly virus already lurking in other communities and spreading?

As luck would have it, Dr. Chu had a way to monitor the region. For months, as part of a research project into the flu, she and a team of researchers had been collecting nasal swabs from residents experiencing symptoms throughout the Puget Sound region.

To repurpose the tests for monitoring the coronavirus, they would need the support of state and federal officials. But nearly everywhere Dr. Chu turned, officials repeatedly rejected the idea, interviews and emails show, even as weeks crawled by and outbreaks emerged in countries outside of China, where the infection began.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: bureaucracy; coronavirus; covid19; panic; pleasepanic; usatestingfail; virus
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To: ClearCase_guy

The concern is the among the few that actually get sick, the mortality rate is very high. Among the total population, the number is low. Take the latter route if it comforts you more but don’t be surprised when older folks start dying in numbers like Washington. Sure, explain that in the big picture it is nothing.


21 posted on 03/11/2020 6:06:06 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“I do not understand the panic.”

Greta Thor is mad. They stole her thunder. She’s protesting around L4 labs. I’m waiting for...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf0fmqWS-kI

It’s looking scary. Pandemic in Detroit? Too close to home.


22 posted on 03/11/2020 6:06:56 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

We are six weeks into this, not four months. Italy is 10 weeks into this and they are in crisis. Look on worldometer and see cases vs recoveries. Recovery takes weeks of intensive care. And Korea spiked from 35 new cases yesterday to 250 today. This is not a seasonal flu. This is bad.


23 posted on 03/11/2020 6:07:13 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: 9YearLurker

Hence the word, “if”. :)

Fact is, if a lot of folks are getting it and getting over it, and they are never added to the number of cases, it means our mortality rate percentage is off. And maybe way off.


24 posted on 03/11/2020 6:07:14 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: 9YearLurker

1/2 their lung scarred? Where do you get that? key cases are mild or asymptomatic and have no permanent damage. Most people that end up on a vent with ARDS will recover fully if they survive. The fear mongering and ignorance around here is deep.


25 posted on 03/11/2020 6:07:49 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: cuban leaf

Not if you want to know the prevalence of something in a community.


26 posted on 03/11/2020 6:09:08 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: C19fan

Still racing around screaming hysteric chicken little hysteria, I see.

Real facts for those interested in Science and data not politically motivated panic mongering and lying.

121,340 total cased WORLD WIDE. 50,00 active cases 70,000 resolved case

4380 deaths. Average age of death: 80 years old

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


27 posted on 03/11/2020 6:09:15 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: 9YearLurker

Civil service rules make it very difficult to fire civil service employees.


28 posted on 03/11/2020 6:09:26 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: cuban leaf

Even after 10 deaths in WA, they still had not tested everyone in Life Center Kirkland. I was in the hospital every day visiting my mother before she died, and every day that I was there over 2 weeks, Critical Care had Wuhan Flu patients. When I started to feel sick, I called the State Dept of Health, and I could not get tested. Even symptoms and exposure could not get me a test.


29 posted on 03/11/2020 6:09:40 AM PDT by RainMan (rainman)
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To: 9YearLurker

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Real facts for those interested in Science and data not politically motivated panic mongering and lying.

121,340 total cased WORLD WIDE. 50,00 active cases 70,000 resolved case

4380 deaths. Average age of death: 80 years old

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


30 posted on 03/11/2020 6:09:40 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: C19fan
We are all going to die! 😩
31 posted on 03/11/2020 6:10:04 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: RainMan

Lying by anecdotal evidence.

Real facts for those interested in Science and data not politically motivated panic mongering and lying.

121,340 total cased WORLD WIDE. 50,00 active cases 70,000 resolved case

4380 deaths. Average age of death: 80 years old

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


32 posted on 03/11/2020 6:10:20 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: 9YearLurker

It is literally what doctors are saying. Don’t get tested unless you are showing symptoms. It’s one reason Trump is not being tested, and that IS the correct response.

This isn’t the plague. This isn’t a movie. This is basically the flu. And like the flu, if you are old and infirm, it may be fatal. For the rest of the population, if you show symptoms, get plenty of rest and drink plenty of fluids.

Meanwhile, the flu:

https://hamodia.com/2020/03/08/cdc-reports-flu-data-2019-2020-u-s-flu-season/

People really need to get a grip here - and stay out of nursing homes in Kirkland. :)


33 posted on 03/11/2020 6:10:51 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: Drago

That’s fine but our country is ultimately bigger in every way. It may have helped but so many people were flooding into our country before the virus was known to be widespread.


34 posted on 03/11/2020 6:10:52 AM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: C19fan

I did updates on the 2014 ebola outbreak on the thread linked below. Reality turned out to be way different than projections. The updates are the last posts on the thread. Reality was far different than projections and hysteria.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3210773/posts

In other words the projected US deaths from ebola were off by a factor of 14,000.

Will be interesting to see how coronavirus turns out.


35 posted on 03/11/2020 6:10:55 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: C19fan

The spread has nothing to do with lack of testing and everything to do with rapid transportation. When a disease has a 5 day incubation period and you can from anywhere to anywhere in the country in 4 to 6 hours, testing won’t contain it.


36 posted on 03/11/2020 6:11:02 AM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot (Recovering Kalifornian... Loving Alabama!)
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To: C19fan

Will they make us dip our fingers in purple ink so they know we’ve been tested? How about the INVADERS who vote.


37 posted on 03/11/2020 6:11:07 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: xkaydet65

Lying false claim. Outbreak was 1st idenfitied in Dec 2019

Still racing around screaming hysteric chicken little lies again today I see.

Real facts for those interested in Science and data not politically motivated panic mongering and lying.

121,340 total cased WORLD WIDE. 50,00 active cases 70,000 resolved case

4380 deaths. Average age of death: 80 years old

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


38 posted on 03/11/2020 6:11:10 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: C19fan

I did updates on the 2014 ebola outbreak on the thread linked below. Reality turned out to be way different than projections. The updates are the last posts on the thread. Reality was far different than projections and hysteria.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3210773/posts

In other words the projected US deaths from ebola were off by a factor of 14,000.

Will be interesting to see how coronavirus turns out.


39 posted on 03/11/2020 6:11:10 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: 9YearLurker

False. This “lung scarring” is a social media myth

Still racing around screaming hysteric chicken little lies again today I see.

Real facts for those interested in Science and data not politically motivated panic mongering and lying.

121,340 total cased WORLD WIDE. 50,00 active cases 70,000 resolved case

4380 deaths. Average age of death: 80 years old

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


40 posted on 03/11/2020 6:11:37 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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