Skip to comments.Coronavirus Live Thread. No 12
Posted on 03/08/2020 3:05:23 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
Continuation of the thread.
I’ve thought about that too.
Baltic Dry Index is recovering. Whether it’s a dead cat bounce or not remains to be seen.
Question is, when’s the low point...?
Hes always been one to do 180 what the crowd is doing lol
Spokesperson Tim Killian says the facility has received the first batch of patient test results: 35/ 50 test results today. 31 positive, 1 negative, and 3 inconclusive.
Killian says these 35 patients will remain here; hospitals need the bed space. Patients will stay unless their symptoms worsen. Right now 7 patients are showing symptoms.
Sorry, bad link: https://twitter.com/caseyworks/status/1237161715575357441
The nation of Ireland has canceled all St. Patricks Day parades, including the massive Dublin festivities, over concerns about the spread of the coronavirus.
Unverified, but fits accounts from doctors in Italy:
I feel the pressure to give you a quick personal update about what is happening in Italy, and also give some quick direct advice about what you should do.
First, Lumbardy is the most developed region in Italy and it has a extraordinary good healthcare, I have worked in Italy, UK and Aus and dont make the mistake to think that what is happening is happening in a 3rd world country.
The current situation is difficult to imagine and numbers do not explain things at all. Our hospitals are overwhelmed by Covid-19, they are running 200% capacity
Weve stopped all routine, all ORs have been converted to ITUs and they are now diverting or not treating all other emergencies like trauma or strokes. There are hundreds of pts with severe resp failure and many of them do not have access to anything above a reservoir mask.
Patients above 65 or younger with comorbidities are not even assessed by ITU, I am not saying not tubed, Im saying not assessed and no ITU staff attends when they arrest. Staff are working as much as they can but they are starting to get sick and are emotionally overwhelmed.
My friends call me in tears because they see people dying in front of them and they con only offer some oxygen. Ortho and pathologists are being given a leaflet and sent to see patients on NIV. PLEASE STOP, READ THIS AGAIN AND THINK.
We have seen the same pattern in different areas a week apart, and there is no reason that in a few weeks it wont be the same everywhere, this is the pattern:
1)A few positive cases, first mild measures, people are told to avoid ED but still hang out in groups, everyone says not to panick
2)Some moderate resp failures and a few severe ones that need tube, but regular access to ED is significantly reduced so everything looks great
3)Tons of patients with moderate resp failure, that overtime deteriorate to saturate ICUs first, then NIVs, then CPAP hoods, then even O2.
4)Staff gets sick so it gets difficult to cover for shifts, mortality spikes also from all other causes that cant be treated properly.
Everything about how to treat them is online but the only things that will make a difference are: do not be afraid of massively strict measures to keep people safe,
f governments wont do this at least keep your family safe, your loved ones with history of cancer or diabetes or any transplant will not be tubed if they need it even if they are young. By safe I mean YOU do not attend them and YOU decide who does and YOU teach them how to.
Another typical attitude is read and listen to people saying things like this and think thats bad dude and then go out for dinner because you think youll be safe.
We have seen it, you wont be if you dont take it seriously. I really hope it wont be as bad as here but prepare.
Today, 06:34 PM
NJ health officials shift from containment to mitigation of coronavirus
BY Brenda Flanagan, Senior Correspondent | March 9, 2020, 5PM EST
State officials on Monday announced five new coronavirus cases; a 27-year-old man from Little Silver, who was probably infected at a medical conference in Boston; and an 83-year-old woman from Hazlet; a 48-year-old from Berkeley Heights in Union County; a 30-year-old in Teaneck; and an 18-year-old in Clifton whose case is linked to the exploding coronavirus cluster around a New Rochelle synagogue in New York.
The states got 24 persons under investigation with local test results pending. So far about half of New Jerseys counties await coronavirus test results. Port Authority Chief Rick Cotton tested positive, according to New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo.
Normally, I shy away from Quora articles, but the one has legit references:
“they” do. But we’ll never know. HIPAA
Of course it is.We are stocked up.I got 5 cans of Beef Ravioli.:)
This isn’t ‘flu’.
And if my fedex guy has it, or anyone who has touched it within the past 48hrs for sure (probably longer with this virus)...it’s on there.
Ditto the mail lady.
Most packages have ‘tape’. Which is a non porous surface.
Better to be safe...
This virus can survive 9 days on some surfaces like plastic. You know those little plastic bubbles they pack with stuff in the boxes? Yeah, those...
BTW, there’s a case in Shelby county TN. I haven’t heard where this person works. If it’s at FedEx...
Yeah..pretty much how I imagine it will be here -in pockets.
Triage and emergency medicine move fast- governments move slowly. In crisis when they collide it can get ugly.
No one is freaking out at my hospital, but there’s anxiety..just waiting for it.
The claim is that it was the real cause of so may deaths during the Spanish Flu pandemic of 1918-1919.
We posted this link very early on in these threads. Over a month ago.
It’s not really ‘known’ how long this one can survive. The answers we’ve gotten for ‘common cold’ virus from the ‘experts’ have just been plain wrong and easily disproven. So I don’t really trust them to extrapolate that data to this particular virus.
Understand, but you mentioned transmission of Spanish Flu by mail. I looked for articles regarding that. If there are other articles you know of, let us know.
Interesting report on mechanics of health care response.
Suspect we’ll be seeing reports of health care facilities being an early vector.
Frankly, I’m bowled over by the advance in genomics!
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