Posted on 03/06/2020 6:59:32 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
Sounds like an improvement over FDR.
So it was anti-Bush propaganda now being re-purposed against Trump? LOL. I remember well how Bush was called “the worst President”, the next Republican is always “the worst”.
Another “on the rocks” career looking to again be relevant (and employed).
Go shoplift something, asshat.
Thief!
It almost sounds like a ripoff of a Night Gallery episode where the unfunny comedian asks a genie to make everyone laugh at him and they laugh even if he just says “Hello.”
If THAT dipshit is miserable, then I’m happy.
Life is good when libtards are miserable.
I wonder if she's shoplifted anything valuable lately?
We watched another one, our last for sure, where a guy runs an 11 year old kid who has millions of followers on youtube, and he wins. It was painful to watch such bad writing laced with frequent profanity. Are there any adults left in the entertainment world?
Do they at least give some specifics? Or is it, he’s such a racist, and a xenophobe, and a homophobe, and the rule of law is, like, being disregarded, and he’s tweeting and threatening democracy...
I’ve watched the first 2 episodes of “The Plot against America”. POV is a middle class Jewish family in Newark. I will present it’s fictional election to you because I enjoy nothing more.
So the idea is that Charles Lindbergh runs for President on isolationist platform in 1940, winning the GOP nomination and defeating FDR. IRL Wilkie took the nomination on an opposite platform but I think isolationism could have been a major winner at the polls with the right spokesman.
I didn’t know much about Lindbergh, his dad was a Congressman (R-MN), his grandfather was member of the Riksdag in Sweden.
The libtard producer of the show claims FDR was worried Lindy might run as he was such a national hero. He would have been the youngest President at 39.
In the book it’s based on Lindy’s VP is Burton K. Wheeler who apparently switched parties.
The show opens in I think early spring 1940 with talk of “Wheeler and the Republicans” recruiting Lindy to run. Wilkie and Dewey (an isolationist at the time in reality) denounced him.
In real life Lindy gave a speech in Des Moines criticizing the “British and Jewish races” for trying to push us into war, this happened in 1941 but the show moved it up a year I guess. After this Lindy lets this Rabbi into his circle (Conservative? It certainly wasn’t Orthodox, women and men sat together at his Synagogue) and he doesn’t say anything “against the Jews” after this point.
He flies himself solo from campaign stop to campaign stop delivering the same 41 word (libs counted!) speech that “is not a choice between (Lindy) and (FDR) but between Lindbergh and War”. Huge crowds.
“Leap for Lindy” is apparently the key slogan.
They have him forced to land in a field while flying between Nashville and Memphis and they don’t find him for 12 hours or something, I’m not sure what that was about it was so briefly mentioned, would have been a huge story.
What is supposed to be the GOP convention is shown, but I swear someone said “remember when he (Lindy) won the nomination?” prior to this which doesn’t track. John L. Lewis, the labor boss, speaks, as does the Rabbi. I think it’s in New York rather than Philly where it was actually held. It was meant by the producer to evoke the German American Bund rallies in Madison Square garden, big picture of George Washington. The closed caption refers to the guy introducing the Rabbi as the “Master of Ceremonies”. Libtard character’s perspective is the the Rabbi is meant to give “permission” for (Christian) people to vote Lindbergh without thinking they are doing anything against the Jews. A-hole producer compares the Rabbi to Ben Carson in the commentary.
The all to brief election sequence begins with a voiceover of a Lindy speech that blames England and France for failing to support Wiemar Germany leading to all this trouble, and also something about that if the White race is ever threatened maybe we’ll have to take part in it’s defense.
Sadly they only give a few state results but the solid South is penetrated in what is clearly a major realigning election. In the book it’s a landslide with Lindy “sweeping the South and west”. Presumably civil rights is jettisoned to appeal to Southern democrats. The show presents it as a close race.
Radio news says highest turnout in history is anticipated. 5 mil more votes than 1936. In reality there were over 4 million more voters. Maybe a numerical record but no where near a VAP% record. NY extends poll hours.
I don’t know how they really called states back then but here we go
Rhode Island is the first state called for FDR.
Polls close in “strategic states on the east coast”
CT, Alabama, and Delaware are tallying ballots
MA and MD are called for FDR, I would figure MA would have been part of a real world GOP win in 1940.
Kentucky and Virginia (not West) are the first states called for Lindy.
FDR wins NY
Lindy wins CT (definitely part of a GOP win that year) and Georgia! (no mention of it being the first time it’s voted GOP but again it’s very brief).
Media starts to do a “ugh oh Hillary (I mean FDR) isn’t winning a landslide” thing. (though everyone on the show other than our deluded Jewish patriarch thought Lindy could and even would win).
In an in-joke about the 2000 election they retract their call of Florida for FDR after Monroe county (which was a significant source of votes, only 4000 or so) goes to Lindy. Florida is TCTC. A Hoover state in ‘28 and an Ike state I have a much easier time seeing it go GOP than GA.
Utah, New Mexico and Arizona for Lindy.
California “still in play”, the sun appears to rising in Newark at this point.
FDR “finally concedes” I guess the next day, a newsreel shows Lindy celebrating with confetti “late on election night”.
Trying to give it to Lindy with around say 280-300 votes (guess) is challenging given these results. Not a lot of info to make choices. If he wins GA and VA what else does he get in the south? How is it even close then? I’d have to give FDR PA, NJ, IL. I’d figure MN would go GOP.
No mention of Congress but the Senate obviously would have stayed rat.
This is what happens when you have moonbats writing political shows that have no concept of real-world political realities, especially historical.
FDR was far too ruthless a politician to sit back and let anyone defeat him. He casually employed methods that they crucified Nixon for. Bugging/surveilling opponents ? No sweat. Telling the media “how” they were to cover him (nothing unflattering) or he would destroy them. He was as close to the definition of dictator ever seen in this country.
The concept of anyone breaking into the South, especially the Deep South, against FDR is particularly ludicrous to me. Roosevelt nuked his Republican opponents there with margins we would call Stalineque today. And wasn’t the South the most hawkish region of the country even in those days?
The FDR trashing on this site gets old. Many of us are or were FDR/JFK Democrats. The south adored Roosevelt because he kept the people working and from starving. His Republican opponents were fools. Willkie ran around saying he was more for The New Deal than Roosevelt was. Dewey, Hoover? That who you FDR haters would throw up against Hitler and Stalin?
Roosevelt was a patriot and a fine leader. Southerners loved him. He was a rock, and he gave my parents confidence with the sound of his voice in radio chats.
He got elected four times, and he was a great president.
Roosevelt was a Socialist Dictator who worsened the economic situation in this country. It took 20 years to correct the economic damage he did, and his expansion of government and enslavement of Blacks to his party has done incalculable damage far beyond that which has never been overcome. He was precisely the kind of person the Founding Fathers NEVER wanted as President. If he had his way completely, he’d have an absolute Totalitarian Marxist Judiciary and no non-Socialist would’ve ever been elected to office again in this country.
That anyone would seriously worship him and call themselves a “Conservative” defies all sense and reason.
You want a great President ? Try Warren Harding. He and his Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon cleaned up the mess of the execrable warmonger Socialist Wilson and resolved a “Depression” in a year. A year. FDR despised Andrew Mellon because the latter proved small-government Conservatism worked and Socialism was an abject failure that brought misery and death to millions. The very failed policy and course FDR foisted on Americans.
It was unfortunate that just as the South was reaching the point of becoming a more mainstream political area in the 1920s, open to at least voting GOP at the top-of-the-ticket, that it plunged right back into the party of darkness by 1932. There were still too many Southerners at the time that saw the GOP as the party of Lincoln, Sherman and the Negro, and wouldn’t support it no matter how better off they were for it.
South Carolina’s margins rivaled the kind of performance you’d see today in your most egregious urban slums, well above 90% Dem. Of course, FDR was fine to play both sides, suckering Blacks into supporting him with welfare (opposed by Black Republican leader Rep. Oscar DePriest of Chicago) while pandering to the worst of the White racists in the South. Truly reprehensible. It took decades for the Southern Whites to figure out FDR’s big gubmint Socialism (and what followed after FDR) was ultimately detrimental to them and started to break out of the voting habits.
But, of course, they weren’t going to be waking up by 1940 to the reality they’d been had by FDR’s failures. He should’ve been out on his ass by 1936 for worsening the Depression.
RE FDR:
That’s SAINT FDR to you, mister... :^)
The dems have him frozen and enshrined somewhere, ready to revive him... “FDR On Ice”, and it’s NOT an ice-skating show...
I get a kick out of people saying that their ancestors heard his “reassuring voice” over the radio that it somehow made things better. It didn’t. It was a load of claptrap to roll the rubes, a poor and inexcusable substitute for actually resolving problems. I think FDR was quite fine to have the country in dire straits and perpetually dependent upon him (gee whiz, that sure sounds like his degenerate Demonrat party), so long as he remained their beloved Emperor.
It’s remarkable when you consider how young he was when he was elected (only 50 in 1932). He (and his media sycophants) kept from the public how awful his health was. If his lifespan had been like some politicians today, holding onto power into their 80s and 90s, he might’ve made it all the way to the 1970s(!) (Truman, 2 years younger, made it to 1972). We were “lucky” he made it to just 63 and died in 1945. Between him and his Communist wife, we’d have looked like Venezuela by the 1960s (with no way short of coup d’état to remove his carcass from office).
The GOP winning the presidency in 1940 without winning NY? That hadn’t happened since 1876. And without winning both PA and IL? That never had occurred. And the only Southern states that possibly could have voted GOP in 1940 had everything gone the party’s way were VA, NC, KY, TN and OK; sure, FL and TX voted for Hoover in 1928 (and AL came close as well), but FDR was not a Catholic.
Only thing boggling are her tits
I spare you the rest of the plot but politically in episode 3:
Wheeler is confirmed to be VP and called a "suckup democrat" by Rachel Maddow, I mean Walter Winchell (I've heard the name), so presumably he he pulled an Andrew Johnson.
And a character says: "We don't have enough democrats left (in Congress) after the landslide."
The producer's remarks and what was portrayed at the end of episode 2 don't jive with it having been a landslide but I guess we got the House (at this point 1876 was the last time we won the Presidency without the House). Baring party switches the Senate was not even mathematically possible I don't think.
Obviously these details were an afterthought to the them but I wouldn't even be able to write something like this without formulating precise election results with at least semi-plausible reasons for each fluctuation. I mean, Georgia? Not unless FDR came out against segregation or something.
I have no idea how dovish or hawkish the South was but Wikipedia has outsourced info that anti League of Nations sentiment in the South helped Harding carry TN in 1920.
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