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To: BunnySlippers; ChicagoConservative27; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA; NFHale; BillyBoy

Sounds like an improvement over FDR.

So it was anti-Bush propaganda now being re-purposed against Trump? LOL. I remember well how Bush was called “the worst President”, the next Republican is always “the worst”.


81 posted on 03/06/2020 4:30:58 PM PST by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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To: Impy; fieldmarshaldj; NFHale; BillyBoy

Another “on the rocks” career looking to again be relevant (and employed).

Go shoplift something, asshat.


82 posted on 03/06/2020 4:46:13 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; campaignPete R-CT; Galactic Overlord-In-Chief

I’ve watched the first 2 episodes of “The Plot against America”. POV is a middle class Jewish family in Newark. I will present it’s fictional election to you because I enjoy nothing more.

So the idea is that Charles Lindbergh runs for President on isolationist platform in 1940, winning the GOP nomination and defeating FDR. IRL Wilkie took the nomination on an opposite platform but I think isolationism could have been a major winner at the polls with the right spokesman.

I didn’t know much about Lindbergh, his dad was a Congressman (R-MN), his grandfather was member of the Riksdag in Sweden.

The libtard producer of the show claims FDR was worried Lindy might run as he was such a national hero. He would have been the youngest President at 39.

In the book it’s based on Lindy’s VP is Burton K. Wheeler who apparently switched parties.

The show opens in I think early spring 1940 with talk of “Wheeler and the Republicans” recruiting Lindy to run. Wilkie and Dewey (an isolationist at the time in reality) denounced him.

In real life Lindy gave a speech in Des Moines criticizing the “British and Jewish races” for trying to push us into war, this happened in 1941 but the show moved it up a year I guess. After this Lindy lets this Rabbi into his circle (Conservative? It certainly wasn’t Orthodox, women and men sat together at his Synagogue) and he doesn’t say anything “against the Jews” after this point.

He flies himself solo from campaign stop to campaign stop delivering the same 41 word (libs counted!) speech that “is not a choice between (Lindy) and (FDR) but between Lindbergh and War”. Huge crowds.

“Leap for Lindy” is apparently the key slogan.

They have him forced to land in a field while flying between Nashville and Memphis and they don’t find him for 12 hours or something, I’m not sure what that was about it was so briefly mentioned, would have been a huge story.

What is supposed to be the GOP convention is shown, but I swear someone said “remember when he (Lindy) won the nomination?” prior to this which doesn’t track. John L. Lewis, the labor boss, speaks, as does the Rabbi. I think it’s in New York rather than Philly where it was actually held. It was meant by the producer to evoke the German American Bund rallies in Madison Square garden, big picture of George Washington. The closed caption refers to the guy introducing the Rabbi as the “Master of Ceremonies”. Libtard character’s perspective is the the Rabbi is meant to give “permission” for (Christian) people to vote Lindbergh without thinking they are doing anything against the Jews. A-hole producer compares the Rabbi to Ben Carson in the commentary.

The all to brief election sequence begins with a voiceover of a Lindy speech that blames England and France for failing to support Wiemar Germany leading to all this trouble, and also something about that if the White race is ever threatened maybe we’ll have to take part in it’s defense.

Sadly they only give a few state results but the solid South is penetrated in what is clearly a major realigning election. In the book it’s a landslide with Lindy “sweeping the South and west”. Presumably civil rights is jettisoned to appeal to Southern democrats. The show presents it as a close race.

Radio news says highest turnout in history is anticipated. 5 mil more votes than 1936. In reality there were over 4 million more voters. Maybe a numerical record but no where near a VAP% record. NY extends poll hours.

I don’t know how they really called states back then but here we go

Rhode Island is the first state called for FDR.

Polls close in “strategic states on the east coast”

CT, Alabama, and Delaware are tallying ballots

MA and MD are called for FDR, I would figure MA would have been part of a real world GOP win in 1940.

Kentucky and Virginia (not West) are the first states called for Lindy.

FDR wins NY

Lindy wins CT (definitely part of a GOP win that year) and Georgia! (no mention of it being the first time it’s voted GOP but again it’s very brief).

Media starts to do a “ugh oh Hillary (I mean FDR) isn’t winning a landslide” thing. (though everyone on the show other than our deluded Jewish patriarch thought Lindy could and even would win).

In an in-joke about the 2000 election they retract their call of Florida for FDR after Monroe county (which was a significant source of votes, only 4000 or so) goes to Lindy. Florida is TCTC. A Hoover state in ‘28 and an Ike state I have a much easier time seeing it go GOP than GA.

Utah, New Mexico and Arizona for Lindy.

California “still in play”, the sun appears to rising in Newark at this point.

FDR “finally concedes” I guess the next day, a newsreel shows Lindy celebrating with confetti “late on election night”.

Trying to give it to Lindy with around say 280-300 votes (guess) is challenging given these results. Not a lot of info to make choices. If he wins GA and VA what else does he get in the south? How is it even close then? I’d have to give FDR PA, NJ, IL. I’d figure MN would go GOP.

No mention of Congress but the Senate obviously would have stayed rat.


90 posted on 03/30/2020 2:18:39 AM PDT by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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