Posted on 02/24/2020 2:14:53 PM PST by Vermont Lt
Just think. Ten months till Christmas.
This is the continuation of the Thread.
My point was that we really don’t have reliable statistics, since anything the Chinese say must be discounted from the start. Among observable and verifiable European or non-Asian cases, it seems like the death rate is about 2%, which is within the high-normal range.
With decent health care, it would probably be lower.
Don’t let yourself get manipulated into hysteria. That’s what Soros and the gang want. Nothing gives a better opening for tyranny than a terrified populace. Don’t let yourself be terrified.
Take reasonable precautions now - many people are, so hand-sanitizer and breathing masks are out of stock in places like Walmart or your local Publix - wash your hands and wipe off things you have to touch, avoid crowds, keep your immune system up with Vitamin C and zinc, and go to the doctor at the first sign of flu symptoms. Early treatment is the key.
But it’s manageable, and more harm will be caused by the hysteria than by the disease.
Good news about the corona virus is that we get to hear about it and quit hearing all the tick tock about brennan leading the DS team to prison
Or it could be that it has spread, and the cases are so mild sufferers suspect they have a cold or flu and don’t bother to seek treatment.
CDC officials recommended individuals and local communications prepare for the possible 'disruption of everyday life.'
February 25, 2020
Officials at the Centers of Disease Control and Prevention say spread of the coronavirus in the U.S. is not a question of "if," but "when."
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You will only know if that is true, after the locked down communities are reopened and the dead accurately counted. That may never happen. Wuhan tried to lift travel restrictions and Chicoms came down hard and shut it down. Beijing is under threat. The problem is the recovered can get it again. So it is either morphing too quickly or our antibodies are not enough.
United States officially 57 now.
I wonder with the infinitesimal amount of testing what it really is.
If ten percent of those quarantining themselves have it then we have 1000 cases or so. Is that a reasonable guess?
Naw, its a they these days.
This is not influenza, it is a coronavirus. Completely different.
428 posts into a thread and threads for nearly a month......and we are still calling this the flu?
A lot of people are going to get sick.
Think the best rumor was just shy of 1,000 last weekend. Known cases. It is why they have so many quarantined. 20,000 now ? There has to be at least 100 in Seattle, Bay Area, LA, Orange County, San Diego, Phoenix, San Antonio and Chicago. That would be 800 right there. And that 100 per hot spot is well shy of the rate it is currently expanding in SK and Italy.
We don’t know how many people got it in Wuhan, and we don’t know what proportion died and what proportion just had the flu and got better
We also know from smuggled Chinese video, as well as the sorts of activity going on in the area, the gasses emitted and, other indicators that the number is very to extremely high.
and it is the re-infection that kills most.
But, if you please, its just the normal seasonal flu that hits China every year at this time, so no problemo. Sorry you are hysterical, maybe later you can get a grip.
I am not “manipulated into hysteria”. This is a thread that covers news, research, discussion and preparation and I am one of the many folks here who research international and local news so people will have actionable information.
If you spent even a little time on these threads you would know that most of the focus at this point is what is happening in first world countries outside of China. For example, in Italy and South Korea the fatality rate is 3%, and infection rate is growing exponentially. If you don’t have the imagination to know what a CFR like that would do worldwide, or in your community—on a health level as well as economic level—then that is your shortcoming.
I have yet to see any posts that look even remotely like hysteria, except for the ones who are being facetious. Frankly, though, your post describing the hard working and diligent people on this thread as being hysterical is insulting. These people work tirelessly to provide information that may or may not affect decisions people make to protect themselves.
In any case, if this fizzles out, all I have done is caused a few people to buy some rice and beans, so what? If you are wrong, and people are not prepared because you told them it was no big deal, how are you going to feel about that?
In terms of infections and reinfections, SARS-CoV-2 is basically behaving like the 4 major “common cold” coronaviruses. Why this surprises anyone is beyond me.
The difference is that this one has a severe case rate and fatality rate sufficient to seriously mess up modern human society, but not so high as to drive itself down quickly.
You know how climate deniers just can’t imagine how we deny it? Well, now we are them with Coronavirus deniers, it’s incredibly that they think this isn’t serious, but alas ...
France
DIRECT. Coronavirus: two new cases in France, announces the Director General of Health
Modified on 02/25/2020 at 19:15 | Posted on 25/02/2020 at 06:23
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7:01 p.m.
Two new cases in France, according to the Director General of Health. “We have two new cases this evening, so we have 14 confirmed cases: two people hospitalized, eleven recovered and one deceased,” said Professor Salomon during a situation update on the Covid-19. It is a young Chinese woman returned from China on February 7, hospitalized in Paris, judges “negative, but with traces of a recent recovery”, and a French man returning from Lombardy, Italy, hospitalized in Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes. Their two states do not inspire concern.
First two coronavirus cases confirmed in Austria
AFP
news@thelocal.at
@thelocalaustria
25 February 2020
16:51 CET+01:00
Two people have been tested positive for the coronavirus in Austria, the authorities reported on Tuesday. These are the first cases in the country after the outbreak of the virus in northern Italy.
The two 24-year-olds have been quarantined in a hospital in Innsbruck, the capital of Tyrol province, which borders Italy, according to Tyrol Governor Guenther Platter.
One of them is from Lombardy, one of the Italian regions hit with the outbreak, but it is not yet clear how the two contracted the virus. Both are suffering a fever but are in a stable condition.
https://www.thelocal.at/20200225/austria-reports-first-two-coronavirus-cases-after-italy-outbreak
CDC expects ‘community spread’ of coronavirus, as top official warns disruptions could be ‘severe’
Today, 12:45 PM
CDC expects ‘community spread’ of coronavirus, as top official warns disruptions could be ‘severe’
By Megan Thielking @meggophone
February 25, 2020
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Tuesday warned that it expects the novel coronavirus that has sparked outbreaks around the world to begin spreading at a community level in the United States, as a top official said that disruptions to daily life could be “severe.”
“As we’ve seen from recent countries with community spread, when it has hit those countries, it has moved quite rapidly. We want to make sure the American public is prepared,” Nancy Messonnier, director of CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, told reporters..
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