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The Queen doesn't own the word 'Royal', say Prince Harry and Meghan Markle: Couple complain about their treatment in lengthy statement after Her Majesty forces them to drop Sussex Royal brand
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Posted on 02/22/2020 5:17:45 AM PST by RummyChick

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have posted an extraordinary statement on their website claiming that the Queen does not own the word royal across the world after they were forced to drop their 'Sussex Royal' brand.

Harry and Meghan put a new statement on their own website hours after announcing they would stop using the word 'royal' in their branding after the Spring.

The statement said that while neither the government nor the Queen herself own the word 'royal' internationally, they would stop using the title.

The statement read: 'While there is not any jurisdiction by The Monarchy or Cabinet Office over the use of the word "Royal" overseas, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex do not intend to use "Sussex Royal" or any iteration of the word "Royal" in any territory (either within the UK or otherwise) when the transition occurs Spring 2020.'

They also appeared to complain that the palace is treating them differently to other family members.

The statement continued: 'While there is precedent for other titled members of the Royal Family to seek employment outside of the institution, for The Duke and Duchess of Sussex, a 12-month review period has been put in place.

'Per the agreement The Duke and Duchess of Sussex understand that they are required to step back from Royal duties and not undertake representative duties on behalf of Her Majesty The Queen.'

A spokesman for the couple first issued a statement to the media about their use of royal titles shortly after 7.30pm on Friday but around 10pm they shared a much longer statement on their website via their Instagram story.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: megxit; queenelizabeth; royalgrifters; royals
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To: BlueHorseShoe

Since I am not a Legal expert on this subject..I reserve the right to be wrong. But he still has it..and they aren’t going to take it from him unless there is no other choice because they know he will be coming back.

I think a lot of articles don’t understand the technicalities and just say the Queen stripped the title by telling him he can’t use it.

It takes a formal process. And no way she is doing that yet.


181 posted on 02/22/2020 2:05:17 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: ZinGirl

certainly!


182 posted on 02/22/2020 2:10:36 PM PST by ronniesgal (so I wonder what his FR handle is????)
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To: RummyChick

Correct.


183 posted on 02/22/2020 2:18:31 PM PST by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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To: RummyChick

Yes, that does seem to be the case and it is interesting. I think it is no doubt much more complicated than we realize too.

I read a good article here from Forbes that says what you are saying and that maybe while they are said to have “resigned” the titles the palace has left it vague for now. I will be interested to see how this plays out in light of the recent pushback from Meghan.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/guymartin/2020/01/18/royal-no-more-prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-resign-their-titles/#39d2f40a790e

Excerpt:
“... Harry and Meghan have it their way, or, perhaps, everybody is having it the Queen’s way: Full abdication of the couple’s royal status and duties. It was announced midway through the London dinner hour on Saturday. The His or Her Royal Highness styling will not be used by Harry or Meghan Markle, nor will it be attached to them. Left purposefully unclear by the Buckingham Palace press release is whether they have actually been stripped of it — it’s assumed that they haven’t actually quite yet been stripped of royal status — but either way, the HRH will not be used by the couple and should not be in play as they pursue their commercial lives and eventual self-sustenance...”


184 posted on 02/22/2020 2:19:22 PM PST by BlueHorseShoe
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To: Chickensoup

They are being treated “differently” is the race card.


185 posted on 02/22/2020 2:28:38 PM PST by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: CJ Wolf
"He can change his name to the 🤴, pronounced as "the unroyal, formerly known as Prince Harry" LMAO
186 posted on 02/22/2020 2:44:26 PM PST by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: originalbuckeye

OMG that name just hit me “Frogmore” like kissing all the frogs til Markle got her prince, HILARIOUS! I bet the name of that “cottage” is one of the things that Markle is ticked about. lol lol


187 posted on 02/22/2020 2:47:26 PM PST by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: dandiegirl

You mean have MI6 deal with her? Seriously?


188 posted on 02/22/2020 2:49:04 PM PST by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: varina davis

And she will never eclipse Kate which is what she really wanted.


189 posted on 02/22/2020 2:49:56 PM PST by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: yldstrk

Kate has class and poise. Markle has neither and never will acquire them.


190 posted on 02/22/2020 2:51:15 PM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: RummyChick

I remember that the Queen stripped Diana of her HRH title and it cancelled her security from the Palace. It came out after her death that she may have been safer with it. So I think that is the reason the Queen is leaving them the title for their security people.


191 posted on 02/22/2020 3:21:52 PM PST by Citizen Soldier
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To: RummyChick
The monarchy hung in the balance when Labour regained power in the 1960's, but it turned out Harold Wilson was a monarchist who got along very well with Her Majesty.

I think there will be another moment if Charles and Camilla succeed. Charles is dumb as a box of rocks and wants everyone to know the world is gonna end because we aren't listening to him. If only he'd have the decency to predecease his mother, William seems to have a great deal of grace and common sense.

192 posted on 02/22/2020 3:46:15 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: olivia3boys

asses.


193 posted on 02/22/2020 3:55:14 PM PST by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: Citizen Soldier

They only provided security for Diana at public functions.


194 posted on 02/22/2020 4:03:06 PM PST by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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To: RummyChick

Ace has yet another update to his story that he had before this broke. easier to read if you go to the link...but ...

https://blindgossip.com/wtf-branding/#more-100190

Harry and Meghan just updated their SussexRoyal.com website with some incredible details about what the new agreement will look like.

They are still arguing about their right to use the word “royal”!

And they are not establishing a charitable foundation.

This is astonishing!

We are pleased to now be able to share with you an update on many of the details agreed at a meeting of The Royal Family in January 2020, which outlines The Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s new roles, taking effect Spring 2020. We had hoped to be allowed to share these details with you sooner (to mitigate any confusion and subsequent misreporting), but the facts below should help provide some clarification around this transition and the steps for the future.

As agreed and set out in January 2020:

It is agreed that the commencement of the revised role of The Duke and Duchess of Sussex will take effect Spring 2020 and undergo a 12 month review.

The Royal Family respect and understand the wish of The Duke and Duchess of Sussex to live a more independent life as a family, by removing the supposed ‘public interest’ justification for media intrusion into their lives. They remain a valued part of Her Majesty’s family.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex will become privately funded members of The Royal Family with permission to earn their own income and the ability to pursue their own private charitable interests.

The preference of The Duke and Duchess of Sussex was to continue to represent and support Her Majesty The Queen albeit in a more limited capacity, while not drawing on the Sovereign Grant.

While there is precedent for other titled members of the Royal Family to seek employment outside of the institution, for The Duke and Duchess of Sussex, a 12-month review period has been put in place.

Per the agreement The Duke and Duchess of Sussex understand that they are required to step back from Royal duties and not undertake representative duties on behalf of Her Majesty The Queen.

As agreed and set out in January, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex will retain their “HRH” prefix, thereby formally remaining known as His Royal Highness The Duke of Sussex and Her Royal Highness The Duchess of Sussex. The Duke and Duchess of Sussex will no longer actively use their HRH titles as they will no longer be working members of the family as of Spring 2020.

That HRH business is clear as mud.

As the grandson of Her Majesty and second son of The Prince of Wales, Prince Harry, The Duke of Sussex remains sixth in line to the throne of The British Monarchy and the Order of Precedence is unchanged.

I’m important!

But still in line behind allllll these people…

It was agreed that The Duke and Duchess will no longer be able to formally carry out ‘official duties’ for The Queen or represent The Commonwealth, but they will, however, be allowed to maintain their patronages (including those that are classified as ‘royal’ patronages).

If they are “royal” patronages, shouldn’t they be allocated to working royals?

It is agreed that The Duke and Duchess of Sussex will continue to require effective security to protect them and their son. This is based on The Duke’s public profile by virtue of being born into The Royal Family, his military service, the Duchess’ own independent profile, and the shared threat and risk level documented specifically over the last few years. No further details can be shared as this is classified information for safety reasons.

In relation to the military, The Duke of Sussex will retain the rank of Major, and honorary ranks of Lieutenant Commander, and Squadron Leader. During this 12-month period of review, The Duke’s official military appointments will not be used as they are in the gift of the Sovereign. No new appointments will be made to fill these roles before the 12-month review of the new arrangements is completed.

While per the agreement, The Duke will not perform any official duties associated with these roles, given his dedication to the military community and ten years of service he will of course continue his unwavering support to the military community in a non-official capacity. As founder of the Invictus Games, The Duke will proudly continue supporting the military community around the world through the Invictus Games Foundation and The Endeavour Fund.

Based on the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s desire to have a reduced role as members of The Royal Family, it was decided in January that their Institutional Office would have to be closed, given the primary funding mechanism for this official office at Buckingham Palace is from HRH The Prince of Wales. The Duke and Duchess shared this news with their team personally in January once they knew of the decision, and have worked closely with their staff to ensure a smooth transition for each of them.

So smooth. You’re fired!

Over the last month and a half, The Duke and Duchess have remained actively involved in this process, which has understandably been saddening for The Duke and Duchess and their loyal staff, given the closeness of Their Royal Highnesses and their dedicated team.

As The Duke and Duchess will no longer be considered full-time working Members of The Royal Family, it was agreed that use of the word ‘Royal’ would need to be reviewed as it pertains to organisations associated with them in this new regard. More details on this below.

Additional Details:

As shared in early January on this website, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex do not plan to start a ‘foundation’, but rather intend to develop a new way to effect change and complement the efforts made by so many excellent foundations globally.

The creation of this non-profit entity will be in addition to their cause driven work that they remain deeply committed to. While The Duke and Duchess are focused on plans to establish a new non-profit organisation, given the specific UK government rules surrounding use of the word ‘Royal’, it has been therefore agreed that their non-profit organisation will not utilise the name ‘Sussex Royal’ or any other iteration of ‘Royal.’

Not a “foundation” but a non-profit. We wonder if there is more independent financial oversight in the latter. And why is “foundation” in quotes?

For the above reason, the trademark applications that had been filed as protective measures and that reflected the same standard trademarking requests as done for The Royal Foundation of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, have been removed.

While there is not any jurisdiction by The Monarchy or Cabinet Office over the use of the word ‘Royal’ overseas, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex do not intend to use ‘Sussex Royal’ or any iteration of the word ‘Royal’ in any territory (either within the UK or otherwise) when the transition occurs Spring 2020.

Still arguing and defiant!

As The Duke and Duchess of Sussex continue to develop their non-profit organisation and plan for their future, we hope that you use this site as the source for factual information. In Spring 2020, their digital channels will be refreshed as they introduce the next exciting phase to you.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex eagerly await the opportunity to share more with you and greatly appreciate your support!

Wow.


195 posted on 02/22/2020 4:09:27 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
I hadn't considered that possibility.

What you're saying is that Meghan is to Harry as Emperor Palpatine was to Anakin. Wow.

196 posted on 02/22/2020 4:54:47 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: DoodleBob

Well....I dont do Star Wars ..so...

I am not saying Meghan is planning that..what I am saying is that someone out there could and she is primed to be a tool. SHe is trying to cozy up to all kinds of people..including, perhaps, those that want to bring down the monarchy.

Certainly, that statement that she put out is not one she is going to be able to come back from. She is now persona non grata.

One accident and you get King Harry. It’s a terrifying thought to think of her and that hapless Halfwit ruling England.


197 posted on 02/22/2020 5:02:44 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

So can they take away the “Duke and Duchess” titles now?


198 posted on 02/22/2020 5:07:21 PM PST by pnz1 ("These people have gone stone-cold crazy")
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To: RummyChick
Cliff Motes version: The Emperor mentally seduced a mentally weakened Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader to join the Dark Side and kill bushels of Jedi.

Now I get what you're saying. That is truly evil. I'm glad that sort of thing can't happen here.


199 posted on 02/22/2020 5:12:11 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: RummyChick

it’s impressive that everyone here has led such a perfect life in such a perfect world that they feel superior with the ability to mock how other adults from another country live their lives...
pathetic hypocrites...


200 posted on 02/22/2020 5:16:23 PM PST by heavy metal (your reward will be in heaven not on your paycheck...)
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