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Leonardo da Vinci's early drawings for "The Virgin of the Rocks" were revealed through X-ray analysis.
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| August 15, 2019
| Christy Kuesel
Posted on 02/15/2020 6:37:37 AM PST by SunkenCiv
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Detail from hyperspectral imaging data, revealing the drawing for the angel and baby of the first composition (under the landscape at the right side of the painting). © The National Gallery, London.

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02/15/2020 6:37:37 AM PST
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SunkenCiv
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I'm not sure how the graphic is showing up, I'm a bit graphics challenged on this vintage hardware/software, and I was able to view it at the originating page, but my link didn't work for me here.
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02/15/2020 6:39:15 AM PST
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SunkenCiv
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Here are the other GGG topics introduced since the previous Digest ping, I guess I'd better get back to work o^:
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02/15/2020 6:44:00 AM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
To: SunkenCiv

Detail from hyperspectral imaging data, revealing the drawing for the angel and baby of the first composition (under the landscape at the right side of the painting). © The National Gallery, London.

Leonardo da Vinci, The Virgin of the Rocks, with tracing of the lines relating to underdrawing for the first composition, incorporating information from all technical images. © The National Gallery, London.

Leonardo da Vinci, The Virgin with the Infant Saint John the Baptist adoring the Christ Child accompanied by an Angel, or The Virgin of the Rocks, ca. 1491/29 and 150608. © The National Gallery, London.
Okay, I loused up the URL, but also, I figured out the direct link [with some snarks redacted by 'Civ].
Detail from hyperspectral imaging data, revealing the drawing for the angel and baby of the first composition (under the landscape at the right side of the painting). © The National Gallery, London.

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02/15/2020 6:52:55 AM PST
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SunkenCiv
(Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
To: SunkenCiv; Robert DeLong
Two observations on the article -
First, Mary is staring down, (their phrase), at the infant John in the final image - which the article did not note.
Second, was the infant,John in the early drawings?
It also was not noted, and I was unable to see any evidence of that in the early drawings.
Maybe Johns addition, was what prompted the change?
Thanks much FRiends,
Tatt
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02/15/2020 6:58:30 AM PST
by
thesearethetimes...
(Had I brought Christ with me, the outcome would have been different. Dr.Eric Cunningham)
To: SunkenCiv
Yeah...but are there secret messages embedded in the drawings?
You know...something to write a best seller about?
LOL.
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02/15/2020 6:58:32 AM PST
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left that other site
(If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all. (Isaiah 7:9))
To: Robert DeLong
Thanks, but I respectfully suggest using the width=500 modifier in future. :^)
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02/15/2020 7:00:22 AM PST
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SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv
Interesting post, SunkenCiv.
It’s enjoyable to be exposed to the resultant painting that made the light of day.
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02/15/2020 7:12:26 AM PST
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poconopundit
(Joe Biden has long been the Senate's court jester. He's 24/7 malarkey and more corrupt than Hunter.)
To: left that other site
Dont dismiss entirely that this is a science. This particular study is a science, which are seldom without its cynics, atheists and several detached working researchers. Its more about DaVinci, who *he* was, and the inspiration he derived from that, which is rather well known in his historic works.
Confirmations and affirmations dont sell a lot of books beyond the science genre and in this case, the dying arts community.
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02/15/2020 8:24:02 AM PST
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RitaOK
(Viva Christo Rey! Publik Skules and Academia = Farm Team for More Marxists coming, Infinitum.)
To: SunkenCiv; Gamecock; SaveFerris
"That means 'from Vinci.'"
To: RitaOK
I was mocking the author Dan Brown, not the Art of Da Vinci or the science behind his work.
(sigh)
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02/15/2020 8:28:23 AM PST
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left that other site
(If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all. (Isaiah 7:9))
To: Robert DeLong
I don’t think the other woman was an angel. I think it was Elizabeth, the mother of John.
After Mary became pregnant, she went to the hill country to see Elizabeth. The hill country is exemplified by all the rocks and the cavernous type surroundings.
Elizabeth uttered her famous words “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb” ..which became the basis for the still chanted prayers to Mary by Catholics.
It would make sense that the two women would visit together with their months apart babies.
Now, Elizabeth in reality was an old women who had been barren up until her husband interceded on her behalf as high priest, before God. In this painting however, she is depicted as a maiden ehich would place her as subject to Mary, considering her words to Mary at the announcement of their pregnancies.
Another beautiful painting is Van Eck’s annunciation. They cleaned and restored that painting in the 1990’s and then placed it for viewing in the National Art Gallery (Smithsonian Museum) in DC. I got to see that one up close and from only a foot away. It was something I’d wanted to see in person, so it was exciting to me to be able to do that.
For what it’s worth...
To: SunkenCiv
I’m a bit confused. This is showing that Leonardo da Vinci was composing a different picture, and then changed it to what we see now?
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02/15/2020 9:30:01 AM PST
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KobraKai
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02/15/2020 10:53:45 AM PST
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SunkenCiv
(Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
The MonaLisa keyword, chrono sorted:
- AI brings Mona Lisa to life, loses signature smile in process [2019]
- Did Mona Lisa Suffer from Hypothyroidism? [2018]
- Mona Lisa's Secret Number to Duchamp's Hidden Face: 5 Conspiracy Theories to Blow Up Your Art World [2017]
- Da Vinci might have painted topless version of Mona Lisa [2017]
- Leonardo da Vinci's DNA [2016]
- Amazing Mona Lisa forgery by Muslim artist [2014]
- Mona Lisa's Skeleton? Scientists Perform DNA Testing, Digital Reconstruction On Da Vinci's Neighbor [2013]
- NASA Beams Mona Lisa to Moon with Laser [2013]
- Younger, happier Mona Lisa painted 10 years earlier, experts believe [2012]
- Is This An Early 'Mona Lisa?' [2012]
- Mona Lisa's Skeleton Found? [2012]
- Mona Lisa's 'twin sister' discovered in Spain's Prado art museum [2012]
- Artist Believes He's Found Secret Code in the Mona Lisa [2011]
- A New Theory for "Mona Lisa" [2011]
- Professor discovers hidden literary references in the Mona Lisa [2011]
- Mona Lisa painting 'contains hidden code' [2010]
- Is Mona Lisa too fat? [2010]
- Is Da Vinci's Mona Lisa a Self-Portrait? Some say...{It} May Be a Self-Portrait... in Drag [2010]
- "Mona Lisa" comes to life in high-tech art exhibit [2009]
- Nude, Mona Lisa-like painting surfaces [2009]
- German experts crack Mona Lisa smile (discovers model's identity) [2008]
- High resolution image hints at 'Mona Lisa's' eyebrows [2007]
- Cash-Strapped Communists Hawk Treasures (France) [2007]
- Mona Lisa Grave Found, Claims Scholar [2007]
- 'Mona Lisa' died in 1542, was buried in convent [2007]
- 'Mona Lisa' died in 1542, buried in Florence [2007]
- Scan hints Mona Lisa pregnant for pose (was La Joconde pregnant?) [2006]
- Copy of Mona Lisa provides insight into original [2006]
- Scientists to unveil secrets of Mona Lisa [2006]
- Riddle of Mona Lisa is finally solved: she was the mother of five [2006]
- Enigma of Mona Lisa Smile Cracked [2005]
- Cracking da Vinci's coded smile (83% happy, 9% disgusted, 6% fearful and 2% angry) [2005]
- Mona Lisa Smiles From New Louvre Digs [2005]
- Hidden room where Leonardo met his Mona [2005]
- Louvre: The Mona Lisa Is Deteriorating [2004]
- Mona Lisa 'was Italy's legendary woman warrior' [2002]
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posted on
02/15/2020 10:55:33 AM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
To: Larry Lucido
"That must be some book."
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02/15/2020 11:39:36 AM PST
by
SunkenCiv
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To: poconopundit
My pleasure. When I get fired up, I'll try to track down a topic in the FRchives, which is about a different painting, perhaps a different artist as well, which covers over an entirely different painting, probably by the same artist.
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02/15/2020 11:42:27 AM PST
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SunkenCiv
(Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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02/15/2020 11:47:28 AM PST
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SunkenCiv
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To: left that other site
Oh, thanks. I didnt really read you that way at all, but I wasnt trying to be a scold in my reply. We carry on. :)
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02/15/2020 4:11:46 PM PST
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RitaOK
(Viva Christo Rey! Publik Skules and Academia = Farm Team for More Marxists coming, Infinitum.)
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