Probably did not make it back tho.
Agree on both counts. Look at the Olmecs and Orientals in Mexico. Archaeologists say they aren't copies of real people: 
and 
Posted on 02/08/2020 10:08:12 AM PST by SunkenCiv
The difference was that Columbus then led a fleet of over a dozen ships and more than 1500 men back on a Second Voyage (and made 2 more Atlantic crossing exploratory voyages after that).
The World changed because of Columbus’s Voyage of discovery.
There is some proof (’chickens’ believe it or not) that some Chinese fishing boats, blown by storms, made it to South America, but little came of it.
What about the cocain found in Egyptian Mummies? Who got it from south America and back to Egypt For a lot of gold! Bet the Phoenicians did it!
Go Phoenicia!
“ filled with people with long straight black hair, speaking strange languages and eating strange food...”. Even now some of us are commenting and lurking on Freerepublic.
Amazing. Great post.
An undiscovered Phoenician skeleton sits on the North American shoreline, an empty wine amphora by his side, waiting for his ship to come in. Better later than never.
They may have but failed.
Thank you for this post.
My ancestors are from England/Scotland and settled in the late 1600s into VA and later to WV.
My nephew looks EXACTLY like what referred to as "Melungeons". He's definately a one-off and looks just like the people I researched.
Thanks for the tip! I'll be looking into this more deeply.
Yes, so many things are lost to time. All the 60’s and 70’s commercial jingles I wish I could remember, for a nonsensical example.
So, yes, they probably did cross the Atlantic, whether on purpose or by happenchance.
I used to work with a Filipino who was retired from the Navy. He attended a University in The Philippines. He said it was founded by Portuguese before The Philippines were officially discovered.
I have heard they were also in Japan before they were officially there.
Other known Melungeon surnames are:
GIBSON/GIPSON
GOYNE/GOIN/GOINS/COYNE, etc.
That picture is what I was hoping to see when someone told me Jerry Jones’ took his new yacht to the Super Bowl...
There are certain indications that Columbus knew the size of the world (from the ancient Greeks), that there was a continent in between; but used the idea of getting to India in order to sell the voyage to Ferdinand and Isabella.
Agree on both counts. Look at the Olmecs and Orientals in Mexico. Archaeologists say they aren't copies of real people:
and
If he was not mistaken then he did an awful good job of pretending he was.
As for Libya, we know it to be washed on all sides by the sea, except where it is attached to Asia. This discovery was first made by Necos, the Egyptian king, who on desisting from the canal which he had begun between the Nile and the Arabian gulf, sent to sea a number of ships manned by Phoenicians, with orders to make for the Pillars of Hercules, and return to Egypt through them, and by the Mediterranean. The Phoenicians took their departure from Egypt by way of the Erythraean sea, and so sailed into the southern ocean. When autumn came, they went ashore, wherever they might happen to be, and having sown a tract of land with corn, waited until the grain was fit to cut. Having reaped it, they again set sail; and thus it came to pass that two whole years went by, and it was not till the third year that they doubled the Pillars of Hercules, and made good their voyage home. On their return, they declared -- I for my part do not believe them, but perhaps others may -- that in sailing round Libya they had the sun upon their right hand. In this way was the extent of Libya first discovered.
The Histories of Herodotus, Book IV, Melpomene, tr by George Rawlinson
Herodotus also notes that a pharaoh known as Sesostris "proceeded in a fleet of ships of war from the Arabian gulf along the shores of the Erythraean sea, subduing the nations as he went, until he finally reached a sea which could not be navigated by reason of the shoals." (Book II, 'Euterpe', tr George Rawlinson)
The Eyrthraean Sea was the name applied to the Indian Ocean (including the gulfs of Suez and Aqaba, and the Persian Gulf), and I would infer that these shoals were actually the iceberg "calves" let off during the summer season at the South Pole.
The Phoenician artifacts at Mogador (west coast of Africa) are mentioned with little detail on page 188.
Phoenicians
by Glenn E. Markoe
the purple isles mogador
"Melkarth" -- Project name for a third to fifth century B.C. trading ship carrying amphorae jars found in 1998 while Odyssey was looking for the Sussex. With no gold or silver, Odyssey has no plans to excavate the site unless a sponsor steps forward to fund it.
- Treasure, Interrupted for Odyssey Marine Update & Company Discovery Summary by Mike Vogel Oct 1, 2008
My pleasure. Bellying sails always grab my attention. :^)
The Phoenicians were probably less likely to go to places other than where they wanted to go, not least because they were all about commerce.
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