Posted on 01/24/2020 2:28:22 PM PST by janetjanet998
Thought it may be a good idea to have a place to follow all the fast moving events in one place
updates coming in fast
I sure hope this wasn’t some bioweapon that was released by accident.
I resisted thinking that a couple of weeks ago, however now I am not so sure. Knowing China, it could very well have been accidental.
Will chlorine work on this one?
By tomorrow morning.
Aerial disinfection
“Regional governments in China have undertaken efforts to contain the spread of the virus, so as to prevent it from reaching currently unaffected areas. Notably, the government of the Henan province has warned residents from Zhengzhou and other cities to stay indoors for two-hour periods to allow aircraft to spray disinfectant over large areas, in order to prevent the virus from spreading there”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019–20_Wuhan_coronavirus_outbreak#Aerial_disinfection
This can’t be good:
Doctors warn China coronavirus carriers may show no symptoms of illness
An Air China flight from Shanghai to Anchorage is less than an hour from landing. That flight will continue on to Chicago-O’Hare.
Air China 1055
CCA1055 / CA1055
En route
Landing in 50 minutes
PVG Shanghai, China
ANC Anchorage, AK
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/CCA1055
cc: Mariner
Yeah, I know of this Ebright character. Doesn’t want to build any high level labs anywhere. Too risky he says. Even tho’ the risk of a natural pathogen, which we sure as heck can’t stop if we don’t learn more (a lot more), that will eventually come along and knock out half, 2/3, who knows, of the human race, is 100%.
Great. As the late John W. Campbell (occasionally a bit of an eye raiser, but more often spot on) put it (paraprasal), I would say to Ebright: “Fine. You can’t take the hazards of life. Might as well jump in a rocket and head for the Sun.”
Is there a finite chance that some Chinese scientist or a team of scientists secretly engineered 2019-nCoV, and then it got out? Yes. It’s just that if one understands the “soup” (hat tip to Mariner for the term) that exists in China amongst the general population, to brew zoonotic viruses, the odds of 2019-nCoV developing in the latter, rather than emanating from the former, must be in the hundreds if not thousands to one.
Personally, my guess is that those biologists (who I’ve read include a number of foreign collaborators) at that lab actually gave the Chinese gov’t a relatively early heads up as experts right on top of the developing situation. The gov’t, as most gov’ts usually do, was slow to respond, but the outbreak followed the predictions, or worse, and now the gov’t is rightfully spooked and scrambling - likely too late - to catch up.
This link is informative. Note how quickly the virus RNA was sequenced and made public.
“Does that mean each person who gets it infects 3.8 people?”
Yes, on average.
“So if this is real bad, then relatively soon it should be epidemic in Beijing and Shanghai.”
14 day incubation means it’ll be a week or two before a lot of people are sick.
shudder snort
True viral marketing.
Insane. They are desperate. All for show.
“That means they have cut down even on leaks from VPN’s.”
Not a peep.
From anybody.
They are completely isolated.
Wow, aerial disinfectant spray.
Unheard of. Unprecedented.
China government is freaking out.
Aerial disinfectant spraying ? I knew it. What do you chemtrail deniers say now ? Lol. Crap. This is getting serious.
I just ordered an Enerzen O3 generator for the house. $85. My wife was complaining about the pet smells anyway!
I ordered some more N95 masks to supplement my supply from two years ago (wildfires).
Oh, for God’s sake!
FLU last year in the US was roughly 0.075% mortality rate.
“Common cold” would be much lower than that.
If 2019-nCoV mortality is 3% (seems to be the best available current number, but who knows what it will be if hospitals are overwhelmed), and if it is as contagious as it appears, this is serious trouble. 50 to 100 million dead globally is not an unreasonable guess. Gotta hope that’s way high.
Ebola is much more deadly, but also far harder to spread. Thank God for the latter!
Consider this: Just 3 days ago the Chinese government was saying there is no human-human transmission.
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