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What Trump learned from Watergate
donsuber.blogspot.com ^ | 12/21/2019 | don suber

Posted on 12/21/2019 9:04:24 AM PST by bitt

Geoff Shepard graduated from Harvard Law School and spent five years on Nixon’s White House staff, including being deputy counsel on his Watergate defense team. He went on to become a successful Philadelphia lawyer. In retirement, he has gone back to research Watergate. The archives have revealed that Nixon was railroaded.

In American Spectator, Shepard wrote, "There is documented proof of a series of secret meetings between Chief Judge John Sirica and Watergate prosecutors. I don’t know which is the bigger surprise: that they were secretly meeting to resolve issues in advance of trial or that they were documenting their agreements in memos to their files. The mother lode of these documents, improperly removed in 1974 when Jaworski left office, first came to light in 2013 in response to my FOIA requests.

"At one point, Cox became so worried about the sustainability of Judge Sirica’s one-sided rulings in favor of the prosecutors that he feared their conviction verdicts would be overturned on appeal. He secretly approached Chief Appellate Judge David Bazelon to explain how the judicial panels could be stacked to maintain Bazelon’s slim one-vote liberal majority. Sure enough, each of the 12 appeals from Sirica’s criminal trials was heard by the full nine-judge appellate court, sitting en banc — a circumstance unprecedented in any federal appellate court anywhere in the country, before or since."

Archibald Cox in retrospect made Jimmy the Weasel Comey look honest.

The deep state won.

Shepard wrote, "It should have come as no surprise that Cox delegated the Watergate Special Prosecution Force recruiting to James Vorenberg, a fellow law professor who had taught criminal law. Vorenberg hired only people whom he knew or who were recommended by people he knew, and he assembled a specially selected team of some 70 lawyers, virtually all Ivy League graduates, the top 17 of whom had worked together in the Kennedy/Johnson Department of Justice. Readers should note the constitutional inversion here: these were the very people voted out of office with Nixon’s 1968 election, now in control of the government’s investigative and prosecutorial powers. Vorenberg announced at their first press conference in June 1973 their intent to investigate each and every allegation of wrongdoing by the Nixon administration since it had assumed office some five years prior."

Sound familiar?

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; History; Society
KEYWORDS: nixon; trump; watergate
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To: Jim Noble
Why did Schumer go right to “We must hear Bolton”? It’s because if Trump, stupidly in my opinion, keeps up “The call was perfect, there was no quid-pro-quo”, and the two sides on the Senate floor keep arguing “yes there was” vs. “No there wasn’t”, Bolton’s testimony at the last minute, on nationwide TV, that Trump told him “I’m going to get Biden by talking to Ukraine” (true or false) could be just the thing to collapse the will of 20 already-weak Republicans.

IF Bolton was ready and willing to say that he would have shown up to the fake impeachment inquiries and said it. He would have raised his hand and said "Hey...I got some info...I'll talk"!

21 posted on 12/21/2019 10:35:41 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: marktwain

The McGovern people were maniacs. They didn’t like losing 49 states and used their massive power in government and media to take him out.

Nixon support went through the floor when he enacted the 55 mile an hour speed limit in mid 1974, making the highway patrol into fascist tax collectors. He was very tone deaf. His own mother wouldn’t have voted for him after that.


22 posted on 12/21/2019 10:46:46 AM PST by Luke21
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To: PGR88
If Donald Trump only appointed “fellow travelers” to his key cabinet posts, he would have nominated MICHAEL COHEN to be the U.S. Attorney General. That kind of sh!t would be a complete disaster.

Trump won because he was a DC outsider. The down side of that election scenario is that you get someone in the White House who has no Beltway-savvy people in his inner circle.

23 posted on 12/21/2019 11:02:56 AM PST by Alberta's Child (In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.)
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To: bitt
"Sound familiar?"

Well, it will in 2025 after Pence loses and all the books come out about Trump's second term...

24 posted on 12/21/2019 11:06:21 AM PST by StAnDeliver (CNN's Dana B: "Show of hands: Coverage for undocumented immigrants?" ***all Democrat hands raised***)
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To: Jim Noble
"The one base that Trump hasn’t covered, a mistake Nixon also made, is “never deny what can be proven - remember, you don’t know who the traitors are”."

Yeaaaaaah, that's why Trump never released the transcript. *facepalm*

25 posted on 12/21/2019 11:34:29 AM PST by StAnDeliver (CNN's Dana B: "Show of hands: Coverage for undocumented immigrants?" ***all Democrat hands raised***)
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To: Jim Noble

I remember the major developments surrounding WG, not so much the details. In retrospect, I think Nixon could have hung on by Haldeman and others taking the fall, like Reagan remained after Poindexter took the blame. What did Nixon in, was Baker going to the WH to tell him he had no support in the senate.

I think what confused most people about WG is how a president who won a 49 state landslide could be removed from office due to a bungled, so what burglary, that McGovern was touting in his campaign ads.

I agree with you about Trump and his “perfect” phone call. Nothing is perfect. He should simply say there was nothing wrong with the phone call, which is correct. In his mind he received nothing personally from Ukraine and Sondlands testimony and the transcript back this up.


26 posted on 12/21/2019 12:38:36 PM PST by Ceebass (The only thing Orwell got wrong was the date)
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To: Alberta's Child

You’re point about being an outsider is understandable, but Michael Cohen is not an apt comparison. He played a little bit in NY State Assembly politics, but otherwise, he also was a complete outsider to DC. He’s a chancer who tried to hitch his star to a rising Trump.

Can you defeat the deep state by being a complete outsider? Its a nice idea, but its not reality. Trump only secured his flanks at the highly political and corrupt DOJ when he appointed Bill Barr.


27 posted on 12/21/2019 12:40:49 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Jim Noble

You make a number of dunce statements. But you take a long time to do it.
Lots of speculation.
It might snow tomorrow.


28 posted on 12/21/2019 12:54:29 PM PST by Honest Nigerian
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To: nathanbedford

In fact Trump is looking back into the documental past to discern the role VP Biden played in what is an investigation into corruption in the Ukraine, involving Joe’s son who traveled with him to various countries in which his son (of the VP Biden) who arranged meetings with people in China, as well. VP Biden on the surface has utilized official travel for the purposes of obtaining financial advantages for his son and family. VP Biden even demanded that the Ukraine fire a prosecutor who was investigation his Joe and the company(s) that VP Biden wanted to halt the investigation thereof.

Trump is investigating the past and not the current activity of the Presidential candidate frontrunner of the DNC - it is actually a form of properly vetting the candidate for the top Executive and LE Position in the Nation - and VP Biden has claimed and is on video acting in a manner that would be impeachable if he were president.

VP Biden could be impeached simply for his vicious demand and bragging that the Ukraine fire a man investigating his son for illegal business activities.

No Intelligence Agency has come to the aid of the Biden’s thus we can rule out black ops monies and intel activities as a motive or cover for the funds... which by the way where did those funds go?


29 posted on 12/21/2019 1:07:51 PM PST by Jumper
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To: Jim Noble

Trump is not going to be removed from office and is going to be reelected. All the rest is talk.


30 posted on 12/21/2019 2:11:51 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: JoSixChip
"bolton is obviously butt hurt and would damage Trump if given the chance. I would not be surprised if bolton has already told many in congress that he is willing to say what they need to convict Trump. But as many here on FR keep telling me, I’m just a troll."

The Democrats never subpoenaed Bolton.

"The House committee requested Bolton's testimony, but he declined to appear voluntarily. The committee then made a strategic decision not to issue a subpoena demanding that he appear. The stated reason was that the action would be a futile one; Bolton wouldn't comply, and the House would have to take him to court (as it did with McGahn) to compel him to do so, and that could take months and months to wind its way through the courts."

31 posted on 12/21/2019 3:33:55 PM PST by StAnDeliver (CNN's Dana B: "Show of hands: Coverage for undocumented immigrants?" ***all Democrat hands raised***)
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To: bitt

bump


32 posted on 12/21/2019 4:07:46 PM PST by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: tiki

So have I.

Personally, I believe G. Gordon Liddy’s take on the matter: that it was nothing more than an attempt to recover compromising photos of a prostitute who happened to be John Dean’s girlfriend.

Rather than let the whole world know that the democrats were running a prostitution ring in their own headquarters, they and the media concocted the so-called Watergate scandal to get rid of a president they hated and to make themselves look good — and cover themselves with a smarmy cloak of self righteousness to deceive the American people.


33 posted on 12/21/2019 4:33:09 PM PST by Ban Draoi Marbh Draoi ( Gen. 12:3: a warning to all anti-semites.)
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To: Ban Draoi Marbh Draoi

John Dean’s wife, maybe girlfriend when picture was taken.


34 posted on 12/21/2019 4:36:37 PM PST by Reily
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