Posted on 12/20/2019 5:21:18 PM PST by EdnaMode
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This brings me to the absolute worst thing about The Rise of Skywalker, which can easily ruin the original movies as well.
Disney chose to go with Palpatine as the villain, without even making the tiniest effort to explain the logic of it. Don’t get me wrong, I’m willing to entertain the idea that a powerful dark master of the Force can’t be killed as quickly as you’d think. Well, unless you’re Rey, in which case it’s apparently quite easy. But Palpatine was able to survive in the shadows for years? He wields such immense power that he can enslave billions of people ready to do his bidding? All with no explanation whatsoever?
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No matter how you spin it, Palpatine’s existence and day job make no sense for Star Wars, especially when you consider the 30 years that passed between the second (original) and third Star Wars trilogies. And Palpatine’s presence affects the entire Rise of Skywalker story.
Not being able to explain the villain in a way the audience accepts ruins the whole thing. It even ruins part of the characters’ arcs, since Rey is the only hero we end up caring about. There might have been Finn, Poe, and Rose stories told in this episode, but they all seem like supporting characters who are not really necessary. Furthermore, because Palpatine was the villain we thought we beat back in Return of the Jedi, his surprising revival sort of ruins the original trilogy as well. I can’t rewatch the first movies now and pretend I don’t know that Palpatine’s death has been an absurd ruse all along.
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In fairness, the Expanded Universe in Star Wars also featured a return of Palpatine. He could transfer his soul to clones. Luke with the help of Leia slices him up real good though and puts an end to that.
That idiotic Star Wars crap should have ended 30 years ago.
My theory about the whole Star Wars "arc"...making it up as they went along.
Hello Mary Sue
Good-bye heart
The Last Jedi did everything in its power to bury Luke Skywalker as a character, while Rise it seems like buries the entire point of Return, which was the defeat of the Emperor and the redemption of Anakin. Too bad. George handed it over to the wrong people.
The Wokefest that was Episode 8 was the weakest of the bunch, without question. But I saw episode 9 today, and it was a rollicking good story. I cannot say how the politics-is-everything crowd will react, but as a genuine Star Wars fan I enjoyed it,
I think in today’s political climate people tend to toxically over-interpret each episode. Star Wars fans should relax; episode 9 was a worthy end to a nice story.
Tired of girl heroes. That is so passe. I’m also tired of female actresses with the viewpoints that they have especially hatred for president Trump.
I will check it out. Even not all of the movies in the Star Wars franchise are at the same level I do find them all entertaining and worth a watch.
The demise began with the ewoks in the second half of sw vi.
The prequels sucked due to incredibly montonic, unemotional and robotic acting. And Jar Jar, or ewoks ii.
The final three sucked because of Mary Sue and how they basically gave the finger to both the fan base that supported them from the beginning, and the original actors characters themselves. Leia gets Mary Sue powers she never had before. Then the finalcvirtue sognal with the lesbian kiss at tge end, the largest FU. they can’t just not pull this libtard virtue signalling shiite.
They didn’t read the story they didn’t see the movies they just made up something that they thought was right
Plus 7-9 just had the worst scripts. horrible scripts.
They try to suck and mirror 4-6 but with twists and ‘diversity’ but the scripts are just awful.
“It was supposed to be a one-off space tribute to the old swashbuckler movies.”
Not really. Lucas had this entire 9 part series in mind. He even wanted to retarded cartoon characters.
Plus handing over a franchise to people who don’t know it and don’t care about it isn’t a good idea, no matter what the franchise is.
The Force Awakens could have been the highest grossing movie of the century.
But with all of that money, the blithering idiots couldn’t even put the original cast on-screen at the same time!
Yes by all measure you should sacrifice your political courage to see a science fiction movie :)
As Yoda might have said to republicans like you..
“That is Why You Lose”
:)
Who wants to see a girl Luke Skywalker. Sure, a 95 lb girl can beat a 225 lb man. Only in the movies, otherwise she would be knocked out with one punch.
When Rian Johnson had Luke Skywalker non-chalantly toss his light sabre over his shoulder into the ocean in the very first scene of The Last Jedi is when I had realized that Johnson was giving a big FU to the whole franchise. What amazed me was that Disney let Rian Johnson wreck the franchise so thoroughly that there was nothing left going forward, where Kylo and General Hux were so laughable as antagonists that it left JJ Abrams screwed for the third film.
I had read that Abrams had valiantly tried to undo the damage caused by TLJ but it’s too late for me. I’m done with the franchise.
Every franchise I’ve seen that Abrams has touched - Star Wars, Star Trek, his own Cloverfield movies - left me feeling kind of cheated at the end. Some of his other work on TV (Fringe, Lost) was just something that didn’t grab my attention in a straightforward way, at least enough to hold my interest over the long haul. It’s been enough to dissuade me from investigating other work he’s done.
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