Posted on 12/01/2019 4:19:50 AM PST by C19fan
It was a good run, Alabama. Hell, it was more of a good run. It was a great run. The No. 5 Crimson Tide’s 48-45 loss to No. 15 Auburn on Saturday dropped Alabama to 10-2 and out of the College Football Playoff. Barring some last weekend insanity it will be the first time in the College Football Playoff era that Alabama hasn’t been one of the four teams playing for the national championship. When the penultimate set of College Football Playoff rankings come out on Tuesday, Alabama will be closer to No. 10 than it is to No. 4. And the door will be wide open for someone to seize the fourth and final playoff spot.
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LSU will beat Ohio State by 30 points. There is no real football outside the SEC, though there are periodically good teams, even superb teams.. at times.
Going 10-0 against big 10 teams is like winning a blue ribbon in the special olympics.
Auburn played a wonderful, scrappy, crazy game. It is just the way they win. Their defense was superb. The game could have gone either way. Auburn should be proud and I am moving on to LSU beating that execrable, pathetic, mewling crappy overrated loudmouthed rep from the so called “big 10” by at least 30 points. I will be in mourning if it is less than 24. I hate the big 10. There is no real football outside the SEC, and last night just proved that. Congrats to Auburn.
...and Bama did beat themselves.... tis true
Nothing like a big “THE” to show the world that you have no class.
LSU, Ohio State and Clemson are in no matter what happens next week.
We had a lengthy discussion about that here on FR right around this time of year in 2011 for this very reason. This is the way that season played out in the SEC:
1. LSU finished the season ranked #1 overall, and they won the SEC West with an 8-0 record in the division.
2. Alabama finished the season ranked #2 overall, and they finished second in the SEC East with a 7-1 record in the division. Their only loss was to LSU by a 9-6 score, and they didn't qualify for the SEC Championship Game because they didn't win their division.
3. Georgia finished the season with two losses, and yet they played in the SEC Championship Game because they won the SEC West with a 7-1 record in that division.
4. So Georgia played LSU in the SEC Championship Game, and they got their asses kicked by a 42-10 score.
Alabama qualified for the playoffs, and they ultimately beat LSU, 21-0, in the national championship game.
This scenario captures the essence of all the flaws and inequities in the system no matter how you look at them:
A. If Georgia had beaten LSU in the SEC title game, does anyone think they (with 2 losses) should be a national championship contender over LSU and Alabama, with one loss each?
B. How do you make the case that Alabama wasn't deserving of the national championship when they beat the #1 and previously undefeated team by a 21-0 score in the championship game?
C. Look what happens in a case like this when the top two teams in the country by any objective measure aren't only in the same conference, but in the same DIVISION of the same conference.
D. To make that 2011 scenario in the SEC even more ridiculous, consider this: Arkansas finished the season 11-2 and ranked #5 in the country. Their only two losses were to Alabama and LSU, and they were ranked as high as #3 before losing to LSU late in the season. So here you had a case where Georgia was playing for the SEC championship even though they were probably the fourth-best team in the conference. They just happened to play in the division that didn't have the top three SEC teams in it.
What about Notre Dame, who doesn’t play in a conference. Also, non-Power Five teams.
Now the way I would do it, is to make the Five Power Conference winners automatically qualify, and add in the best at-large team to make it an six-team playoff.
Seed the teams, with the top two teams getting a First-Round Bye. With the 3rd Seed playing the Sixth Seed and the Fourth Seed playing the Fifth Seed.
Man -- that is harsh. LMAO.
It could be worse. You can be 0-9 in the Big 10 like Rutgers.
You can even add some flexibility, for example. You could add another team to make it seven, and have the 6 and 7 seeds play a “Play-In” game.
That would give you essentially three weeks of Playoff football in the month of December, when normally you have to wait for the beginning of January for meaningful games.
Ok, so here’s my Playoff System:
Five Power Conference Champions.
Take the Best Team from the Non-Five Power Conferences or Independents.
One more at large.
Seven teams
Play In: #6 vs #7
First Round: #3 vs 6/7 winner, #4 vs #5
Semi-Finals (just as we have it now): #3 or #6/7 vs #2, #4 vs #1
Championship Game
So according to my system, your playoff teams are projected as:
Big Ten: Ohio State
SEC: LSU
ACC: Clemson
Pac-12: Utah
Big-12: Oklahoma
Non-Power Five Team: Memphis or Notre Dame
Potential At-Large Teams: Bama, Baylor, UGA
Oops, s/b #4 or #5 vs #1
War Eagle! Great game.
Please tell me that you are planning to cut the number of games EVERY college team will play EVERY year in order to get the playoff system you want.
For example, THE Ohio State Buckeyes are already playing 15 games this season if they win out. When are they going to get an education?
If you cut the number of games then what about all of the teams that do not make the playoffs? How are they going to generate revenue to keep up with the top tier teams?
I've never been an advocate of the CFP. I wouldn't even suggest that they declare the SEC champion the national champion. Who's to say which of those four teams is best based upon a fluke play here or there. The National Championship is best decided upon each team's body of work, not whether some opponent did or didn't make a two point conversion against them. This must be decided by a committee of supposed experts just as "Horse of the Year" is.
(BTW, I'm a UVa fan but does a run with two fluke wins really make them better than Duke? Duke was 2-0 over UVa last year.)
ML/NJ
Assuming Ohio State is a top-two seed, there would be no difference to them from the current system.
Oregon is toast. They lost to ASU.
Win. How is it any different than what you have now?
FCS has a full-blown playoff, how do the North Dakota State players get an education?
They could get rid of the silly non-conference games against FCS schools. If a school can’t fund a football team on their own, then they should drop football.
1. If two teams being considered for the final four spots have already played during the season, THAT game determines who gets to be among the last four teams. In essence, that regular season game is declared a "play-in" game after the fact and whoever won that game moves on into the playoffs. The loser had their opportunity then and can't complain about being eliminated from consideration. This would eliminate the unfairness of one team being expected to beat the other team TWICE to win a championship while the other team just has to win ONCE. In a way, this will have expanded the playoffs by reaching back into the regular season for games instead of adding additional ones.
2. Use a Conference championship as a tie-breaker for teams with the same record and reward the team that actually won something on the field of play. This would only apply to teams that had never played each other during the season. If they had played, the winner of THAT game gets to advance.
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