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The United States Is Starting to Look Like Ukraine Why the president must be impeached *(Barf)
NYT ^ | November 22, 2019 | Bret Stephens

Posted on 11/23/2019 5:16:01 AM PST by NorseViking

Donald Trump ought to be impeached and removed from office. This isn’t what I thought two months ago, when the impeachment inquiry began. I argued that the evidence fell short of the standards of a prosecutable criminal act. I also feared impeachment might ultimately help Trump politically, as it had helped Bill Clinton in 1998. That second worry might still prove true.

But if the congressional testimonies of Marie Yovanovitch, Bill Taylor, Gordon Sondland, Alexander Vindman and especially Fiona Hill make anything clear, it’s that the president’s highest crime isn’t what he tried to do to, or with, Ukraine.

It’s that he’s attempting to turn the United States into Ukraine. The judgment Congress has to make is whether the American people should be willing, actively or passively, to go along with it.

I’ve followed Ukrainian politics fairly closely since 1999, when I joined the staff of The Wall Street Journal Europe. It has consistent themes that should sound familiar to American ears.

The first theme is the criminalization of political differences. Years before Trump led his followers in “Lock Her Up” chants against Hillary Clinton, then-Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych did exactly that against his own political rival, Yulia Tymoshenko, who was sentenced to seven years in prison on a variety of byzantine charges after she had narrowly lost the 2010 election.

She spent three years in prison before her release during the 2014 Maidan Revolution. Key to Yanukovych’s efforts to discredit Tymoshenko was — who else? — Paul Manafort.

A second theme is the use of political office as a shield against criminal prosecution and as a vehicle for personal and familial enrichment. Why have so many of Ukraine’s oligarchs — including Burisma Holdings founder Mykola Zlochevsky — also served as government

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; History; Society
KEYWORDS: 2020election; alexandervindman; bretstephens; burisma; dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; election2020; ericciaramella; impeachment; manafort; mediawingofthednc; nevertrump; nevertrumper; nevertrumpers; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; partisanmediashills; presstitutes; smearmachine; trump; ukraine
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To: Destroyer Sailor

Biden doesn’t think he can be locked up. He should look at how Manafort was arrested, who did far less than Biden and his idiot son.


41 posted on 11/23/2019 6:43:41 AM PST by richardtavor
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To: NorseViking

It’s starting to look like it might rain/snow/be getting dark, we need to impeach the president!


42 posted on 11/23/2019 7:29:13 AM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: NorseViking

NYT 1-22-2017: Trump Must be Impeached


43 posted on 11/23/2019 7:56:58 AM PST by RonnG (')
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To: PGalt

” Who is dis Kafka? TELL ME!”


44 posted on 11/23/2019 7:59:27 AM PST by RonnG (')
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To: NorseViking

As long as they have breath they will continue to fight to restore their power; but it won’t work. God elected Trump and satan’s minions can never overcome God’d will.


45 posted on 11/23/2019 8:01:43 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: RonnG

Franz Kafka - Great writer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trial

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Kafka


46 posted on 11/23/2019 8:03:43 AM PST by PGalt
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To: NorseViking

Democrat Bret Stephens weighs in.


47 posted on 11/23/2019 8:47:30 AM PST by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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To: NorseViking

Fiona Hill is a Globalist.

“Fiona Hill, Author at The Globalist”

https://www.theglobalist.com/

“The Globalist is dedicated to “exploring how the world really hangs together.””

“hang together”???? Growing up in the 60s-70s we recognize this as “hippy speak”.

“...we do not believe in the superiority of any one culture.”

“MORE LIES: Fiona Hill Who Worked for Soros and Is Linked to Chris Steele and Joseph Mifsud Insists She’s “Non-Partisan”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/more-lies-fiona-hill-who-worked-for-soros-and-is-linked-to-chris-steele-and-joseph-mifsud-insists-shes-non-partisan-video/

Watch the Roger Stone video dated JULY 2017 at the same site, scroll down.


48 posted on 11/23/2019 8:50:45 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: NorseViking

The gloves are off. No lie is too big or too obviously false to not be used against Trump.

With the support of the leftist MSM, no lies are “beyond the pale”. (”outside the bounds of acceptable behavior”)

The objections to the lies and the “truth” is being drowned out by the overwhelming forces against us.

Through the “will of God” is the ONLY way we can win this battle.

PRAY for our president, pray for our representatives, pray for our corespondents, pray for our country, pray that God will sustain us and bring us glorious VICTORY against all evil including Schiff, Pelosi, and all their minions.

I don’t want God to “have mercy on their souls”, but that’s up to Him.


49 posted on 11/23/2019 9:07:26 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Texas Eagle

Bret Stephens sees President Trump trying to stop the Democrat Ukraine looting operation, and blames HIM for it.


50 posted on 11/23/2019 9:08:58 AM PST by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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To: NorseViking

Opinions...I have one.
The Left is reeling this weekend.


51 posted on 11/23/2019 9:11:40 AM PST by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope.)
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To: Vaquero
I’ve followed Ukrainian politics fairly closely since 1999

Stephens has outed himself as part of the Democrat looting operation in Ukraine.

52 posted on 11/23/2019 9:13:59 AM PST by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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WATCH: Joe Biden Brags About Rigging The Ukranian Political System

WATCH: Joe Biden Brags About Rigging The Ukranian Political System

53 posted on 11/23/2019 9:52:22 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Vaquero

Yes not you but the person who wrote the item.


54 posted on 11/23/2019 10:39:59 AM PST by Destroyer Sailor (Revenge is a dish best served cold.)
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To: Destroyer Sailor

Yup thanks.


55 posted on 11/23/2019 12:19:04 PM PST by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

Stephens was with WSJ for 16 years but moved to NYT in Apr 2017. wonder how all this would fit into the RussiaHoax timeline?

12 Apr 2017: Politico: Bret Stephens leaves Wall Street Journal for New York Times
By HADAS GOLD
One of the loudest voices against President Donald Trump from The Wall Street Journal’s editorial pages is decamping for the competitor across town.
Bret Stephens, the Journal’s deputy editorial page editor, will be The New York Times’ newest op-ed columnist, both papers announced on Wednesday.
“He’s a beautiful writer who ranges across politics, international affairs, culture and business, and, for The Times, he will bring a new perspective to bear on the news,” Times editorial page editor James Bennet wrote in a memo...

Stephens, who won the 2013 Pulitzer Prize for Commentary, emerged throughout the election as the Journal’s resident anti-Trump conservative, often clashing with other big names on the right like Fox News host Sean Hannity...
https://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2017/04/bret-stephens-leaves-wall-street-journal-new-york-times-237176


56 posted on 11/23/2019 2:00:09 PM PST by MAGAthon
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