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To: little jeremiah
Unit cohesion, too.

Having a woman in combat is the functional equivalent of a casualty: women literally cannot pull their own weight.

Also men might have jealousy sleeping with/competing for her; and if she is hurt or captured, men will run ridiculous risks, endangering themselves and the unit, to try to rescue her.

And women get injured far more often, even from regular tasks.

Finally, there's this thing called the "I'm pregnant get-out-of-jail-free" card, particularly on ships.

...and speaking of ships, one of the crashes in the Pacific was because the (female) helmsman and (female) captain weren't speaking to each other.

Women do NOT belong anywhere near the fighting forces.

1,056 posted on 11/04/2019 4:21:52 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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1,057 posted on 11/04/2019 4:39:12 AM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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1,062 posted on 11/04/2019 4:51:51 AM PST by Melian ( Check yourself before you KeK yourself. ~ Melian)
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To: grey_whiskers
Women do NOT belong anywhere near the fighting forces.

Grey, baby, read back on your replies. I don't see a lot of people saying "yes, women belong in combat". What I see is people pointing out your lopsided "let's give all male vets a break, a helping hand - but nothing for the female vets".

But you artfully avoid that part of the discussion. Why is that? Is this misogyny?

1,069 posted on 11/04/2019 4:58:08 AM PST by blu (BagsterÂ’s ping on the side)
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To: grey_whiskers; manc

Unit cohesion, too.
Having a woman in combat is the functional equivalent of a casualty: women literally cannot pull their own weight.

Also men might have jealousy sleeping with/competing for her; and if she is hurt or captured, men will run ridiculous risks, endangering themselves and the unit, to try to rescue her.

And women get injured far more often, even from regular tasks.

Finally, there’s this thing called the “I’m pregnant get-out-of-jail-free” card, particularly on ships.

...and speaking of ships, one of the crashes in the Pacific was because the (female) helmsman and (female) captain weren’t speaking to each other.

Women do NOT belong anywhere near the fighting forces.

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Not having been in or around the mil, I have no personal or relatives’ experience. BUt because I have read about women in the mil in general, and in combat trainging etc and mixed with men, in particular, I know you are 100% correct. Additionally, I am very familiar with the philosophy of feminism of which this is the result. I know from reading those who are experts that the above is all true, and more. I pinged manc who was in the British mil and experienced first hand the ruinious effect of mixing women and men in the mil.

In WW2 women were in the milk - in their own outfits. That is the way it should be. Of course feminism, or more correctly, faminazism, would have to be rolled back. Which it will have to be, or civilization is doomed.


1,097 posted on 11/04/2019 6:34:17 AM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: grey_whiskers

“Also men might have jealousy sleeping with/competing for her; and if she is hurt or captured, men will run ridiculous risks, endangering themselves and the unit, to try to rescue her.”

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I used to work around a lot of old-timer union trade guys. One in particular was an older, close-to-retirement ironworker and one of our foremen. Great guy. Even though union he understood AND would coach his guys about the “the company that hires you needs to be successful, or you won’t have a job.”

He would often give his opinion on matters one of which was women in combat...heck this had to be in the early 80s:

“You know, I think that’s dumb as hell. Imagine on the front lines in the trenches. You got a mix of guys and gals, and you know damned well there’s four guys trying to buddy up to one gal over time. As soon as the order goes out to go over the top, the gal gets her a$$ shot, and then four guys run over to be the rescue hero, and then they get their a$$ shot. That’s a bad problem”.

I have often thought about what that ironworker said, and it always made a lot of sense to me.

I also recall the Ironworker Local business agent coming in the shop one day and going off about the mandate they allow women in the ironworkers’ union. As I recall the BA saying: “They need to be careful what they wish for.”

After about two weeks when the first three gals were brought into the union, a call went out for some “rodbusters” (steel reinforcing bar for concrete) on a project in downtown Columbus OH. So the BA sent two out for the labor call, and they were set to work on busting #8 and #11s. (1” and 1-3/8” diameter respectively) One of them lasted two days and drug up (quit). The other gal ended up hurting her back on the job within two weeks and then sued the Local.

The business agent had a lot of resentment about the women being assigned to “lighter duty” tasks on sites where less muscle was required. These tasks traditionally were given to older guys that had done their time and didn’t have quite the horsepower that the younger hands had.

The Pipefitters Local BA had the same sentiment. He had a real hard time seeing a gal on one end of a joint of 3” steel pipe and a guy on the other end each going up an 8’ ladder to get the joint into hangers. (My dad told me he and another guy would do this with 6” steel pipe when he was a sprinkler fitter. My dad was also a bull-strong freak.)

We men and women have our differences. They complement one another. Play off those strengths.


1,108 posted on 11/04/2019 6:54:22 AM PST by EMI_Guy ("You have to slow down to go fast." - Kenny Roberts)
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