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The Tipping System Is Immoral (Leave 30%)
New York Times ^ | 10/24/2019 | David Brooks

Posted on 10/25/2019 8:31:33 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

For most of my life I’ve been glad that America is a society that relies heavily on tipping. First, tipping allows us to reward excellent service. Second, in a world of rising economic inequality, a 30 to 50 percent tip is a small but direct way to redistribute money to those who are working hard to earn a living.

Moreover, tipping nurtures humane relationships. It encourages servers to try to establish social connection through direct eye contact and a display of warmth. Finally, most of the servers I’ve known like the tipping system. They’ve believed that by doing their job well they could earn far more than they could through a flat wage. That’s certainly what I thought as a bartender.

So over all, I’ve taken it as good news that tipping culture seems to be spreading to every cashier’s counter in the land.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Food
KEYWORDS: tipping
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To: Persevero

Good man. I have tipped a driver generously for safely getting me where I needed to go in a pinch. Standard operations merit a standard tip but I do tip drivers.

A young man in Thailand got a tip much much more than the fare for getting me to the airport during the start of Thai New Year. I would never see him again but wanted to say thank you in a way he would remember. It was just the right thing to do.


81 posted on 10/25/2019 9:55:04 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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To: Jewbacca

For every minute I spent at a table meant 5 minutes doing something else to get the food/drinks there.

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Yeah? You’re standing around the kitchen for five minutes waiting for my food to come out?

Look. I know your job is hard. Keeping up with 4-5 tables at a time. But don’t try and claim that a waiter spends 20 minutes in total time for one party.


82 posted on 10/25/2019 9:56:41 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: golux

Don’t forget the Federal Department of Transportation. They mandate a nationwide blood alcohol level of .08 in order to receive federal highway funds. They call it the Legal Limit. This is one way that the 16th Amendment has corroded the sovereignty of the states.


83 posted on 10/25/2019 9:57:08 AM PDT by webheart
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To: Responsibility2nd

I always estimate my tip in advance and put it on the table in cash starting at 15%. I point to it and say to the waitstaff. “That’s your tip there. It can go up or down depending on how you searve us.” It usually goes up after that. But many times it goes down. Sometimes it goes down and then they get real nice and it goes back up again.


84 posted on 10/25/2019 9:58:53 AM PDT by CJ Wolf (Freedom, if you can keep it)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Well my current job is hard, but it involves flying airplanes while not getting shot and shooting the other guy. As stated in the post, I was a waiter when I was a student.

But, no, you don’t just “stand around in the kitchen”. For example, for salads, we made it. You’d put orders, then check that it was right, same for drinks, you chase down silverware, whatever. It’s essentially a problem solving position if done correctly.


85 posted on 10/25/2019 10:01:13 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Responsibility2nd
T.I.P.S. = To Insure Perfect Service.

I “TIP” if the service is good (no perfect service in today's world) 10-15%

No “TIP” for bad service.

Expecting a “TIP” for just dropping off my food order is just wishful thinking!

86 posted on 10/25/2019 10:01:14 AM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet (Stand for the flag, kneel for the cross))
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To: Jewbacca

Hi.

Getting shot at sucks.

Imho.

5.56mm


87 posted on 10/25/2019 10:02:28 AM PDT by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! BUILD THE WALL!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Reading the responses to the Article, jeez those folks complicate EVERYTHING.
You have “unearned privileges” if you can tip someone?
What a sad bunch of people.


88 posted on 10/25/2019 10:04:41 AM PDT by TexasM1A
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To: Responsibility2nd

I probably over-complicate it. It’s a food cost to quality of service ratio, which can invert as well. What I mean is, if I go out to breakfast and get a $6 “eggs and toast” type meal, especially if the wait staff are really busy, I might tip $3-4, over 50%. Likewise, if I eat at an expensive restaurant, I’m not going to tip at those percentages. It’ll probably be between 15-20% and I will go lower if the service is notably bad when they’re not that busy.

...so it depends. I don’t consider it a difficult skill, any expectation to make over 20% is unreasonable - especially as many aren’t paying their share of taxes.


89 posted on 10/25/2019 10:08:36 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I think that tipping should be expanded to include other professions, like: bank teller, feed store cashier, post office clerk, ice cream vendor, etc.

"Here are your nine one-dollar stamps, Mrs. Smith!"

"Here's a sawbuck! Keep the change!"

Regards,

90 posted on 10/25/2019 10:10:00 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Took the family to Waffle House this morning...left a pretty generous tip slightly above 20%.

BUT it was because I wanted to. When 30-50% starts becoming "expected" I'll start staying home and cook.

91 posted on 10/25/2019 10:11:10 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: wardaddy
And pretty sweet girls......no question there

And they KNOW that!

The smart ones really flirt it up.

92 posted on 10/25/2019 10:14:05 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Servers who work in upscale restaurants can make good money.”

My beautiful and cheerful niece worked at a high end restaurant in downtown DC in summers while in college would make $400 a night in tips..sometimes $500 or more. Most of the people who ate there were lobbyist schmoozing politicians or ceo’s.

She made less money at her first real job out of college but it was experience.


93 posted on 10/25/2019 10:18:56 AM PDT by setter
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To: ealgeone

My wife says I’m a sucker

I tell her I didn’t marry her 25 years ago cause she was dog food


94 posted on 10/25/2019 10:31:54 AM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: HamiltonJay

Divide by 7.
Equals 14.3% tip
$100/7=$14.29
14.29/100=.143 =%14.3


95 posted on 10/25/2019 11:37:17 AM PDT by 9422WMR
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To: 9422WMR

My sister in law taught me a neat and easy trick.

In Texas the tax is 8.XX%. Depending on locality.

Remember - do not tip on the tax. Just the food and beverage.

Double the tax amount and include it. Adjust plus or minus as necessary.

Done.


96 posted on 10/25/2019 11:43:29 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: M Kehoe

Always turned out worse for the other guy.

I seriousness, I mainly train others and serve as a reserve pilot. I doubt I will ever fly combat again, which is OK by me.


97 posted on 10/25/2019 12:05:32 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
You have never been to anyplace (unless top 10 in the world) that makes fries like I do and they will make you cry. Extreme crisp and almost mashed potato like interiors.

I'd pass 'em up for some nice, limp, greasy fries dripping with ketchup...Made from fresh, not frozen...

98 posted on 10/25/2019 1:00:34 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Responsibility2nd

I not only tip my auto mechanic, I buy him a case of beer at Christmas. This ensures that my car is well taken of. (I also tip the service manager.)


99 posted on 10/25/2019 5:50:09 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: BBQToadRibs

Tipping %50 in restaurants was always normal in NY. %10 if service was less than satisfactory.
Now, we just don’t go to restaurants.Fast food, Chinese and pizza. And home, of course. And the food is better!

(Outback is terrible!)


100 posted on 10/25/2019 8:04:04 PM PDT by Concentrate (ex-texan was right and Always Right was wrong, which is why we lost the election. Podesta the molest)
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