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Keto diet is not good for you long term - expert warns against popular weight loss plan
(UK) Express ^ | Sept. 4, 2019 | Emily Hodgkin

Posted on 09/04/2019 2:10:56 PM PDT by BobL

KETO diet methods are becoming increasingly more popular among those looking to lose weight. However, a nutritionist has warned that dieters should avoid the plan long term.

Low carb diets have been popular for some time among those who want to lose weight fast.

The keto diet is a particularly high fat version.

However, an expert has warned that the diet may not be safe longterm.

Although, many swear by this method to help them drop the pounds. The keto diet, or ketogenic diet, is a low-carb diet plan.

Dieters may only eat low carb foods, such as lean meat and dairy. The idea of the diet is to put the body into a state of ketosis.

This is an alternative metabolic rate in which the body burns fat instead of carbohydrates to survive.

However, the diet was not originally used for weight loss. In fact, it was used as a cure for epilepsy.

Hebe Mills, who is an Associate Nutritionist, told Express.co.uk: "The Ketogenic diet has been used since the 1920s as a medical therapy diet for epilepsy patients that do not respond to anti-epilepsy drugs (AEDs) to aid seizure control."

(Excerpt) Read more at express.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: diet; keto
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To: BobL

The gov food pyramid was built by lobbyists.
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101 posted on 09/04/2019 5:33:50 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope.)
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To: Varda

The Eskimo Diet is unnatural, and tends to produce osetoporosis.

A very-high protein diet is excessively acid-forming systemically. The body must buffer the blood moment to moment within a very narrow pH range. Leeching the calcium from the bones is the way it keeps the blood livable when it is continually subjected to the acidic by-products of an acid-forming diet.

It is also hard on the kidneys and liver.

The human body is adaptive, but not all adaptations are without negative consequences.


102 posted on 09/04/2019 5:34:26 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: right way right

We most definitely have a sugar addiction problem in this country.

If you get sick, uncontrollable craving, after removing the addictive substance for a period of time, it is most definitely an addiction.

It is also why people “backslide” after starting a keto lifestyle, seeing incredible results; their minds “trick” them into that one cheat.

I have read of people putting potato chips into their carts at the grocery store. A seemingly uncontrollable response to a stressor.


103 posted on 09/04/2019 5:35:55 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: BobL

They were not perfectly healthy: Osteoporosis and atherosclerosis are common. A very-high protein diet without compensatory alkaline foods is systemically highly acid-forming, promoting calcium loss long term.


104 posted on 09/04/2019 5:37:37 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: zlala

“I think people (experts) must be in the pocket of big pharma when they speak out against it. Just my opinion & experience.”

Great to hear regarding your insulin! Even more amazing is that you found a nutritionist who hasn’t called in the straight-jacket team to take you to happy-house, yet.

As to the above, I suspect it’s various factors, one being what you said, another is that they look down on us as ‘nutritional deplorables’, and yet another is simply having to live with themselves, once they realize that the ‘advice’ they’ve given throughout their entire career has not only been wrong, it has actually been harmful, in many cases, very harmful. One way to deal with that is to simply deny that’s the case.


105 posted on 09/04/2019 5:41:13 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: greeneyes
"Since I eased into the keto, by gradually cutting carbs, instead of all at once, I didn’t have the flu like symptoms that many talk about."

Not everyone does. I've never had that even though I've been in and out of ketosis several times.

One thing that is recommended if you do get the "keto flu" is to up your intake of salt and other minerals. Many people aren't getting enough.

106 posted on 09/04/2019 5:42:17 PM PDT by mlo
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To: BobL

Hi-
Please add me to your ping list for Keto/LC.
Thanks very much!


107 posted on 09/04/2019 5:43:29 PM PDT by Faith65 (Isaiah 40:31)
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To: SamAdams76

Nice, and you’re in too!


108 posted on 09/04/2019 5:43:59 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: GnuThere

I am a nutritionist with nearly thirty years of experience (after my own near-death experience following the AMA-sanctioned approach to health). I am not a registered dietican, and do not “toe the party line”; I have not even consulted with an M.D. myself since 1995.

However, I know that the Keto Diet is not ideal, especially for anyone with compromised kidneys and/or liver, and is not entirely suitable for continual use.

It is an artificial device, a tool, and should be treated as generally prescriptive.


109 posted on 09/04/2019 5:44:27 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: Faith65

Yep, glad to have you! You’re number 70 on the list.


110 posted on 09/04/2019 5:45:17 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: YogicCowboy
"A very-high protein diet is excessively acid-forming systemically"

A ketogenic diet is not high protein.

111 posted on 09/04/2019 5:45:23 PM PDT by mlo
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To: YogicCowboy
"However, I know that the Keto Diet is not ideal, especially for anyone with compromised kidneys and/or liver, and is not entirely suitable for continual use."

Let me suggest that your nutritionist training is still hanging over you and that you don't actually "know" that at all.

That's completely wrong about the liver. In fact if you have fatty liver disease a ketogenic diet is probably what you need.

112 posted on 09/04/2019 5:48:05 PM PDT by mlo
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To: YogicCowboy
just a quick internet search on your assertions:

The truth about acid-forming foods and diets

The average person can maintain normal acid-base balance through a wide range of acid intake from foods. Within minutes of an imbalance, your body compensates...

The theory is that an acid-forming diet leads to disease because it forces your body to use key minerals — like calcium, magnesium and potassium — as acid buffers, instead of using them for bone health, heart health and prevention of other diseases. Scientific research does not support this idea.

Research from several decades ago indicating that cancer cells thrive in an acidic environment has also been overridden by more recent discoveries that cancer cells likely create that acidic environment themselves.

Much of the research on the acid-alkaline balance of the diet is in relation to bone health, specifically osteoporosis. However, there is no solid evidence that dietary acid load causes osteoporosis or that an alkaline diet protects bones. In fact, recent research suggests that we need adequate protein to maintain healthy bones.

Many foods that have been classified as acid forming have not been specifically evaluated for their effects on bone health or other diseases. Instead, researchers have measured the pH of urine, which is not a reliable indicator of blood pH, let alone disease risk.

113 posted on 09/04/2019 5:51:00 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: YogicCowboy

Why didn’t indigenous people around the world (like the Inuit) suffer serious liver and kidney problems from this “acid-forming diet? Were clinical studies done?

Epidemiological studies are worthless when it comes to nutrition.

Did you know that the requirements for nutrients when on a well-formulated ketogenic diet may be very different than those on the SAD diet?

For example, vitamin C competes with glucose - and those in ketosis do not require as much vitamin C as those consuming carbs. Check it out!


114 posted on 09/04/2019 5:52:12 PM PDT by jacquej ("You cannot have a conservative government with a liberal culture." (Mark Steyn))
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To: YogicCowboy
"... but carbohydrates as a macro-food group are a natural and necessary part of the human diet"

Not true at all. Name anything necessary about them.

"It is difficult, if not impossible, to get all needed nutrients in a diet devoid of caloric carbohydrates"

Carbohydrate foods tend to be nutrient poor compared to foods you eat on a ketogenic diet, and there are no necessary nutrients that only come from hi carb foods.

"Since the body does not burn those calories, they are converted into body fat as stored energy..."

It's a more complex process than that. Calories in vs calories out is wrong. That's not how body weight is regulated. Your body and appetite actually adapt to what you are putting in it.

"The Keto Diet is indeed not suitable for continual use: It is too acid-forming systemically..."

Do you mean the high protein diet again? That's not Keto. A ketogenic diet is suitable long term. It is a natural diet for a human. We are carnivores that can consume vegetables when we have to.

115 posted on 09/04/2019 5:53:56 PM PDT by mlo
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To: BobL

Add me to the list, please.


116 posted on 09/04/2019 6:00:05 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

You’re in!


117 posted on 09/04/2019 6:02:45 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: YogicCowboy

I really do not want to rain on your parade, but the acid/alkaline hypothesis (another fad diet craze) is very suspect, and many think it nonsense.

For those who want to do their own research, check out the following links.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=alkaline%2Facid+diet+hypothesis+disproved&bext=msl&atb=v43-3_s&ia=web

I really disrespect fear-mongering. I politely ask you to let us “nutritionally ignorant” folk alone. We do not trust your “expertise”. I have studied nutrition on my own since the late 1960’s, and have seen so many of these idiotic theories come and go, making only the authors of the fad books wealthy at the expense of our health.

I have corrected my atherosclerosis (ultrasound confirmed) since following this diet for these past 18 months. I have lost 110 pounds. Arthritis, energy, Cholesterol,
A1C, and other bloodwork so much improved.

Your opinion is interesting but wrong. My calcium levels are great, and I will be 76 in a few months.

Do you know that many professional athletes in endurance events are now eating keto, and beating the carb loaders in every event?


118 posted on 09/04/2019 6:11:16 PM PDT by jacquej ("You cannot have a conservative government with a liberal culture." (Mark Steyn))
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To: BobL

There is no money for them if the population is healthy.


119 posted on 09/04/2019 6:13:56 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: ican'tbelieveit

I was wondering about that, given acidoketsis is bad in diabetes. Wondered about if supplementing with baking soda would help


120 posted on 09/04/2019 6:19:59 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hatse:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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