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1 posted on 08/22/2019 7:27:19 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Marxist Deconstruction of history.

* Search and Destroy *

2 posted on 08/22/2019 7:29:25 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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Yeah they were so altruistic :)

Listen I don’t give a sh.t. really. that they slaughtered the South Americans.

But to present them as saviors is REALLY a stretch.

They went for $$ and killed anyone that didn’t help them find it. And a whole lot of other people too.


3 posted on 08/22/2019 7:33:09 AM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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Mel Gibson said that his movie “Apocalypto” was mild by comparison to the reality. No one was skinned alive in it, no children murdered, etc.


4 posted on 08/22/2019 7:34:47 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To the KNISH ping list. Well worth reading.


5 posted on 08/22/2019 7:35:14 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (The denial of the authority of God is the central plank of the Progressive movement.)
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"When he reached the New World, Cortez burned his ships. As a result his men were well motivated."


6 posted on 08/22/2019 7:35:36 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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Never heard the story of that final battle.

Pucker factor meter was no doubt pegged for the Spaniards

9 posted on 08/22/2019 7:39:29 AM PDT by Eagles6
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The best history about these events is the first person account of one of Cortez' foot soldier, Bernal Diaz.

The Discovery and Conquest of Mexico by Bernal Diaz, a review. From the review:

The Diaz account is the best history book that I have read. It has all the advantage of a first person account and reads like a well written adventure novel.

The Discovery and Conquest of Mexico by Bernal Diaz del Castillo is the only extant first person account of the campaign under the command of Hernando Cortez from 1519 to 1520. The campaign resulted in the discovery and conquest of the Aztec civilization in Mexico.

Cortez himself wrote five long letters to Carlos V in Spain. Parts of them are included in this edition to help explain the narrative. But Cortez' letters were essentially reports of a Conquistador commander seeking favor, and explaining his actions, which were mostly extralegal.

The entire Conquest was a massive verification of the adage that “It is easier to obtain forgiveness than permission.”

Bernal Diaz' account is a first person narrative of the entire campaign, with the amazing detail of a foot soldier who is vitally interested in food, women, weapons, and gold. He includes accounts of two separate expeditions before Cortez.

Bernal Diaz made extensive remarks on the use of firearms in his narrative. The initial numbers were tiny, but contributed significantly to the success of the conquest.  Of the initial 400 to 500 men under the command of Cortez, there were 16 with horses, 13 with individual guns, four small cannon, “some brass guns” (more cannon), and 32 crossbowmen. The 13 personal guns were almost certainly arquebuses, the first really practical personal gun, with early matchlocks. Diaz mentions “much powder and ball”.

12 posted on 08/22/2019 7:48:28 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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BFL


14 posted on 08/22/2019 7:49:59 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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Cortez was no saint. He lusted after women, gold, and adventure

A regular guy to be sure. Better than today's snowflakes, incels, soy boys and twinkies.

Today's kids could learn a few things from Cortez...
15 posted on 08/22/2019 8:04:00 AM PDT by farming pharmer
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Good one, and despite not being politically correct--TRUE.


Painting by Spanaird who was on-the-scene .


Painting by Aztecs on side of Temple, early 1500s.

16 posted on 08/22/2019 8:07:42 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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20 posted on 08/22/2019 9:07:07 AM PDT by bitt (The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody had decided not to see.- Ayn)
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Now we know where the meat for the original tacos came from. They didn’t have cows, pigs, chickens, goats, sheep or horses. They did have dogs and surplus people.


24 posted on 08/22/2019 10:02:29 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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Regardless of motivation, getting rid of the Aztecs was a good thing. No peace with murder cults.


27 posted on 08/22/2019 10:33:40 AM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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In hindsight, as human beings we are compelled to resist and dismantle inhuman anti-life cultures and cults. They are not in any way compatible with basic humanitarian concepts and anyone who sustains or participated in said abomination should be rehabilitated if possible, disabled from harming another human if not.

Cortez, though motivates by greed and lust did all of humanity this one favor in crushing the abomination of Aztec human sacrifice.

I say this with difficulty though, as in my own family many have ancestors who were slaughtered by the conquistadors when they brought the inquisition to the Americas.


28 posted on 08/22/2019 12:27:42 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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Good piece. Mel Gibson makes the same point in his excellent film Apocalypto. He slyly marketed it to the media as having an anti-Iraq-war message, but it was really about showing the savagery of the Aztecs. It's a long movie and you don't get any relief until the last scene when you see the Spanish galleons in the harbor with their cross shaped masts.
44 posted on 08/22/2019 5:48:01 PM PDT by Yardstick
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Say it ain’t so Joe. Cortez the Killer was actually Cortez the Liberator ? I need to get to my safe space quick. Later....


47 posted on 08/22/2019 10:25:46 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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