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Navy Pilots are Seeing UFOs. Are They from Russia, China, or Somewhere Beyond?
The National Interest ^ | Task and Purpose

Posted on 06/09/2019 4:41:36 PM PDT by RoosterRedux

Let's talk about UFOs.

To be clear, your friend and humble narrator does not wear a tinfoil hat, nor does this reporter believe the U.S. government is competent enough to keep proof of alien life secret from the American public.

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Yet a number of credible media outlets have reported that Navy pilots are increasingly reporting sightings of unidentified aircraft, and the service is taking them seriously for a change. Politico's Bryan Bender reported in April that the Navy was working on new guidelines for reporting such aircraft in the wake of increased sightings in military ranges and airspace.

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[C]ould these strange aircraft actually be long-range Russian or Chinese unmanned surveillance aircraft?

Probably not, according to the Air Force.

"While there is a proliferation of UAV [unmanned aerial vehicle] technology across the globe, we are not concerned that China or Russia have developed a long-range capability about which we are not aware," said Air Force spokesman Maj. Bryan Lewis.

Any drone that could fly from Russia or China to the United States' East Coast would have to be at least as large as an MQ-9 Reaper and the data link used to fly the aircraft would be detectable, said retired Air Force Maj. Gen. James Poss, who served as the service's former assistant deputy chief of staff for intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalinterest.org ...


TOPICS: UFO's
KEYWORDS: aatip; fringe; luiselizondo; navy; ohsomysteriouso; ufo; ufos; usn; usnavy
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To: RoosterRedux

Linear thinking? Thinking out of the box? It would always be best not to confuse imagination with true insight. It is true that humans are perhaps the only species on earth that are capable of mystical thought and that mysticism or wonderment is at the core of scientific inquiry. However most of what is imagined or thought however emotionally gratifying is not real or reproducible. History is sodden with examples where musings and imagination lead to seductive delusions followed by human tragedy. When hard irrefutable evidence or reproducible experimentation is not present, a wise person does well to be skeptical.

So allow us skeptics to doubt that UFOs are alien visitors from many light years, dimensions or times far away or unknown or not perceptible to limited human senses and capabilities. Tolerate our “linear thinking”. Just don’t ask us to finance your fantasies with our taxes. As long as you don’t become dangerous, like many people who “thought out of the box”, feel free to go on imagining.

If you are interested, my own musings on what the UFO phenomena may represent has been posted on previous threads.


161 posted on 06/10/2019 6:08:31 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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To: Jamestown1630
There are different kinds of ‘knowing’. Some people derive convictions from extra-sensory faculties, like intuition or convictions that stem from feeling, not intellect.

True, but there's a fine line between intuition and delusion. A person can believe something so strongly, that for them, that thing becomes 'real', but it's only in their mind.

As a long time seeker of personal enlightenment, I can say that I'm very familiar with this phenomenon, so I don't just discount the spiritual realities of others. Just because I can't perceive a thing does not mean it doesn't exist. It just means that I'm incapable of seeing it, or it doesn't exist. I'm willing to allow for either reality, but I can only operate on that which is real to me.

Now, there are also those things which I feel I comfortably know, and which I have great certainty on. Some of those things are outside the norm of everyday 'beliefs', and are part of what we might call the spiritual realm. I *know* these things because I can perceive or communicate with them in some tangible way, even though many others can't.

In the same vein, there are some *truths* that others hold as real, that I'm not capable of perceiving or communicating with. For me, those things are not real, and I won't accept them just because another person claims to have deeper insight or powers of perception than I do.

162 posted on 06/10/2019 6:12:15 AM PDT by Windflier (Torches and pitchforks ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Windflier
there's a fine line between intuition and delusion

This is definitely true; or at least, delusion is often interpreted as the product of accurate intuitive apprehension.
163 posted on 06/10/2019 6:15:14 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: mabarker1

57 varieties???

:-)


164 posted on 06/10/2019 6:16:51 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: Justa

COOL !!!


165 posted on 06/10/2019 6:21:49 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: RoosterRedux
As you and I know, whether we "know" or don't know if something is real has NO bearing to its actual existence.

Exactly right. That is the precise axis upon which my own *belief* system turns.

Essentially, there is Truth, and then there's everything else. I don't claim to have the ability to see ultimate Truth, but I also refuse to accept things as *true*, simply because some authority insists certain things are real for me. That's for the individual to determine, and no one else.

For example, it's written in the Christian Bible that there is a heaven and a hell. I have zero subjective reality on the truth of that assertion, so I choose not to accept it as actual fact. The Bible also states that we are all spirits, which I do accept as real because I have subjective reality on it.

166 posted on 06/10/2019 6:26:30 AM PDT by Windflier (Torches and pitchforks ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: allendale
All human invention and discovery (scientific and otherwise) is a product of the human imagination. Yet it is not mystical.

BTW, there is nothing wrong with skepticism. But skepticism loses its value when it exists only because the skeptic lacks imagination.

As a retired financier, I used to do some venture capital investing. You don't find many "green eye-shade" accountants in that business. It takes people who can see the possibilities yet also understand the pitfalls.

It takes imagination with a healthy dose of REAL skepticism...the kind of skepticism based on a clear perception of reality. Not the kind of skepticism which merely clings to the past.

167 posted on 06/10/2019 6:30:10 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux; All

Did You hear about the TT that submerged and was on the USS Princeton’s Sonar and the SSN Louisville’s Sonar as well ?

The USS Princeton Sonar Operator ask the SSN Louisville Sonar Operator if they had it also because the TT was traveling at 75 knots- submerged !?!?!?

The SSN Louisville Sonar Operator confirmed that and then told the USS Princeton to cease the conversation. Later on The USS Princeton Sonar Operator contacted the SSN Louisville Operator to talk about the whole thing and was told “DO NOT CONTACT ME ANYMORE!”


168 posted on 06/10/2019 6:38:51 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: Jamestown1630
What purpose would ‘demons’ have in presenting as aircraft?

None. Something is flying because it's a convenient form of travel to get from where they came from to where they want to be... There's no reason to postulate beyond necessity...

169 posted on 06/10/2019 6:59:20 AM PDT by GOPJ (Line the pockets of deep state thugs to gain power. Graft in DC is protected by 'norms'...)
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To: GOPJ

I think the person to whom I was responding meant to suggest that the ‘demons’ are utilizing one of our contemporary myths/cultural memes in order to hoodwink us...somehow.


170 posted on 06/10/2019 7:02:52 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: mabarker1

I saw that last night when I watched the second episode of the History Channel’s “Unidentified” on Amazon Prime.


171 posted on 06/10/2019 7:03:55 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux; Fred Nerks

We know nothing much from evidence about what it is we are seeing or sensing.

Until we can examine direct evidence, we have to rely on what people have seen , heard or otherwise experienced, most of which has been somewhat bizarre and illusory, what is called anecdotal evidence in science.

If there are indeed ‘alien” entities, why have we not produced one ? This must be an established goal.

If there are “vehicles” then why have we not entrapped one or brought one down? This must also be an established goal.

The earth is ours. It is ruled by humanity. We have a perfect right to control sovereign air space and our ground space, to interdict and capture anything that is not identifiable.

This passive approach of lets see if “they” will hold hands is hardly the proper way to gain evidence of what it is that we are sensing in terms of phenomena.The passive approach is that of a group of grunting neanderthal surrounding a campfire, engaging in superstitious conduct , and we humans are far beyond that.

Until we design ways to gather physical evidence, its all just entertainment. Lets hope someone gets real about it.
We have the technical capability and the bait.

Just do not put a lefty Dem in charge of it.They are susceptible to god pills.


172 posted on 06/10/2019 7:10:58 AM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: rodguy911
"You don't actually think they spend $20,000 on a hammer, $30,000 on a toilet seat, do you?"
173 posted on 06/10/2019 7:14:40 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: RoosterRedux; Fred Nerks

An impressive link on domestic black ops A/C.

http://tr3aurora.blogspot.com/2013/02/exposed-usafs-tr-3-aurora.html

Scrolling to the near bottom , particularly impressive is the wreck salvage photo taken on a dock, which shows the exterior of the alleged mercury plasma drive unit of the “Aurora”.


174 posted on 06/10/2019 7:25:33 AM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: RoosterRedux; Fred Nerks

On cable TV, the History Channel is presenting a series on UFOs beginning Friday June 14th, using evidence from US pilots and ATC staff, military aviation tracking cameras etc.:

Unidentified: Inside America’s UFO Investigation
New Episodes Fridays at 10/9c

https://www.history.com/

It is notable that the show will not be aired in Canada....
very curious actually, but the advertising for it has been run on Canada’s History Cable Channels. The program does not appear on the Canadian schedule.......more sick censorship from the Canada lefty idjits who do not want an increase in Canada’s military defense spending, nor do they want Canadians going out and purchasing defensive firearms.


175 posted on 06/10/2019 7:36:44 AM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Windflier
As to the existence of hell, I have seen things on this planet that are close enough to being hell that I have no problem assigning odds to its existence after death.

I have also been present when people die and it makes you think.

It's like checking for the fire exits in a large meeting hall. I like to plan for unexpected negative contingencies. At my age, I have seen a lot of sh!t and I know it is good to be prepared.

I, for one, am not going into the unknown unprepared for the possibility of a repeat of some of the really bad stuff I have seen and experienced on this side of the great divide.

As an aside, I have given my life to Jesus, so whatever He has in store for me is fine (be it heaven or war). It can't be hell because as long as I have hold of Him, hell has no sting.

176 posted on 06/10/2019 7:50:14 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux; bagster; Chode; All
Or maybe we have slave value or certain of our body parts are considered delicacies to certain advanced species.

Eating the Human Thymus Gland is supposed to be like Cocaine to The Reptilians.

177 posted on 06/10/2019 7:58:00 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: rodguy911

Bookmark

Thank You


178 posted on 06/10/2019 8:01:04 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: Candor7; Fred Nerks
That History Channel show "Unidentified" started on Friday, May 31st (a week ago Friday). I watched the second episode last night on Amazon Prime.

It's good but one has to wonder where the History Channel is going with this.

Will it end by concluding that:


179 posted on 06/10/2019 8:03:14 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Jamestown1630

No relationship to the pickle/condiment Family or the breed of Dogs.


180 posted on 06/10/2019 8:13:35 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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