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Electric cars DO have a smaller carbon footprint overall, says Volkswagen
Motoring Research ^ | 4/25/19 | John Redfern

Posted on 04/29/2019 12:05:19 PM PDT by Moonman62

Volkswagen has crunched the numbers to show electric cars produce lower CO2 emissions than petrol- or diesel-engined models, for the entire lifespan of the vehicle.

While it may be clear that an electric car produces no direct CO2 emissions when driving, Volkswagen has demonstrated the wider savings through use of a ‘certified life cycle assessment’ process.

The company has taken the all-electric e-Golf, and the traditional diesel-engined Golf TDI, to demonstrate just how substantial the differences can be over the whole life of a car.

(Excerpt) Read more at motoringresearch.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: tesla; volkswagen
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To: rb22982

“which is what you said.”

Please cite.


121 posted on 04/30/2019 7:46:18 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Ikeon

“gas turbines cannot supply the power a coal fired or nuclear power plant.”

hmmm. Then the 4384 MW Tatan power plant is just a temporary plant

?


122 posted on 04/30/2019 7:53:28 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator
"Are you referring to that debunked article by the dudes pushing methane powered cars?"

Certainly implied in this statement. The "dudes" (an economic think tank) weren't pushing anything going into the study and simply reported their findings.

123 posted on 04/30/2019 8:01:10 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: rb22982


Certainly implied in this statement. The “dudes” (an economic think tank) weren’t pushing anything going into the study and simply reported their findings.”

Then we both agree that you faked my position.

I made a statement. Nothing implied.

So now you are an expert on the motives of European think-tanks. Give me a break.


124 posted on 04/30/2019 8:16:34 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator
Here's some info for you.
125 posted on 04/30/2019 9:07:19 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: TexasGator

LOL I’m at least as much as an expert as you and given how distorted your statement was I certainly could care less of your opinion of them.


126 posted on 04/30/2019 10:32:12 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: rb22982

No distortions from me. You are the one that had to back off from your distortion.


127 posted on 04/30/2019 10:42:18 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

You are delusional. Calling an economic think tank “dudes” and then saying they were pushing methane, which they weren’t (was simply the results of the study) and calling the study debunked (without providing any evidence at all in that or subsequent posts) is 100% distortion.


128 posted on 04/30/2019 11:02:19 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: rb22982

Since it is true it is not a distortion.

And the proof has already been posted here.


129 posted on 04/30/2019 12:56:13 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

le sigh. Please link to a post or article showing said “proof” besides your word, which I value at somewhere between 0 and negative value.


130 posted on 04/30/2019 1:24:43 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: rb22982

Feel free to review my posts and perhaps google.


131 posted on 04/30/2019 1:56:43 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

You are incorrect - the batteries are under warranty for either 8 years OR 100-125k miles, whichever is first meaning the average will be less than 8 years - I’d guess 6.5 years on average. Yes, there is recycling the battery at the end of its life but that’s also true of both the diesel, regular gas and electric vehicles in general. If this is your “debunking” its not a very good one.

https://www.tesla.com/support/vehicle-warranty


132 posted on 04/30/2019 2:06:38 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: rb22982

The S And X have UNLIMITED miles!

The ‘3’ is guaranteed to have 70% capacity at the end of the warranty period.

Quit Omitting basic facts.


133 posted on 04/30/2019 2:12:31 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

You apparently have reading comprehension or didn’t look at the link I gave at all
https://www.tesla.com/support/vehicle-warranty

It clearly states the warranty is for 8 years or less for all types of cars, including the S and X


134 posted on 04/30/2019 2:14:09 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: rb22982

Real world data shows greater than 90% capacity for Tesla batteries past 160,000 miles.

And the technology keeps improving.


135 posted on 04/30/2019 2:19:45 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: rb22982

I didn’t question the 8 years. I corrected you on the mileage.

My post is accurate.


136 posted on 04/30/2019 2:21:16 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

The study in question assumed the battery lasted 10 years which would be right at about 160k miles for a typical driver. You claimed the study was bunk because the battery had unlimited miles but that is only true for 8 years, shorter than the study’s time frame. And you can trust “cleantechnica” for your 90% claim all you want. I certainly don’t.


137 posted on 04/30/2019 2:24:38 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: TexasGator

No its not, it’s miss-leading. The study used 10 years, longer than the 8 years the warranty covers. You really are a Tesla tool.


138 posted on 04/30/2019 2:26:42 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: rb22982

Time does not enter into the CO2/miles equation.


139 posted on 04/30/2019 2:27:01 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

Do you really not comprehend? They are estimating a 10 year useful life of the battery (2 years past warranty) and used 15,000 miles per year because that is the AVERAGE driven by a typical vehicle driver. Obviously, many people drive less and more, but studies typically take the average.


140 posted on 04/30/2019 2:28:59 PM PDT by rb22982
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