And he had such potential. He coulda been a contender.
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Posted on 04/10/2019 10:11:03 AM PDT by romanesq
During the 2018 Midterms in the United States, strange signs started appearing at political rallies. Held up by non-descript attendees, the signs read simply, “We are Q.” For those Trekkers out there, you might be confused: no, these rallygoers were not making an oblique reference to the infamous Star Trek: The Next Generation character portrayed by John de Lancie. The group appeared from the fringes of internet chat rooms, such as on the website of 4Chan, a peculiar mixture of cyberpunks and various online misfits.
“Q” is derived from an anonymous poster on the internet forum, a source claiming to have a top secret clearance with the U.S. intelligence community. This person (or group of people) spun an intricate conspiracy theory that many Far Right activists on gonzo internet forums picked up and began disseminating to wider audiences online and in their communities.
The conspiracy goes like this: the real purpose of the Robert Mueller special counsel investigation was not to investigate Donald Trump, but instead to investigate Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and people like former Hillary Clinton campaign chairman, John Podesta. The QAnon conspiracy theory is far-reaching, with new pieces added with regularity, in the form of what Q supporters refer to as “breadcrumbs.” One such addition to the conspiracy theory last year was that the Mueller probe was also looking into the now-deceased Senator John McCain (R-AZ) for his illegal activities.
What is the ultimate end of the QAnon conspiracy; what does Mueller hope to achieve, according to them?
That part, like most conspiracy theories, is conveniently not knowable. The Mueller investigation, having ended in a whimper rather than the bang the Trump-hating Fake News was hoping for, should have been the end of the QAnon conspiracy theory. QAnon conspiracy theorists have simultaneously argued that the ultimate target of the Mueller investigation is either the “Deep State” of nefarious anti-American, globalist actors, or the aim is to pursue high-profile pedophiles in the United States government and in other powerful circles related to the government.
QAnon’s Pernicious Connections to “Pizzagate”
Now for the most pernicious aspect of the QAnon conspiracy theory. In 2016, conspiracists on 4Chan and other similar fringe messaging boards claimed that the emails stolen from Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s (and subsequently made public by WikiLeaks) contained secret messages referring to a powerful ring of pedophiles who were using a local Washington, D.C. pizzeria as a base of operations to conduct their crimes. None of these claims were true. But, what ended up happening was that the highly irresponsible conspiracy theory triggered a mentally unstable man, who in turn took a gun to a D.C. pizzeria with intent to use it.
The source material for these theories is the vile, uber-fringe 4Chan and 8Chan. 4Chan was launched in 2003 as a place to share images and discuss Japanese anime. In fact, it was modeled on the Japanese anime internet boards, such as Futaba Channel. Over time, though, the already eclectic group of online personalities that 4Chan attracted devolved into something darker. It became a haven for crazed conspiracy theorists from both sides of the political divide. 4Chan also became popular among the white nationalist community, and also became a place for hackers and other criminals–including child pornographers. If there was a Hell on the internet, 4Chan was Hell.
Meanwhile, a similar website, created by gonzo software developer, Frederick Brennan, 8Chan was launched in 2013 as a response to what Brennan believed was the rise in authoritarianism, censorship, and surveillance on 4Chan. Despite the fact that 8Chan has become the 3,857th most viewed website in the world, with an average of 35,000 unique visitors per day and 400,000 original posts per day, it too has become mired in controversy. 8Chan, which has been billed as the more libertarian (though, perhaps libertine would be better) 4Chan, has apparently become a hub of international child pornography postings. This became such a problem that, in 2015, 8Chan was blacklisted by Google search. It is a profound understatement to claim that anything positive or good comes from these boards. Yet, it is precisely from sites like these that the “Pizzagate” and now the QAnon conspiracy theories emanate.
Alternative media figures, such as Mike Cernovich, have also furthered the “Pizzagate” and QAnon conspiracy theories. Some of these individuals have massive social media followings. With big internet names furthering the conspiracies, it was only a matter of time before disaster struck. In 2016, when the pizzeria shooting happened, several media outlets attempted to lay the blame at the feet of people like Cernovich. This only gave the Fake News Industrial Complex more fuel in their ongoing war against President Trump and the Right.
The very same group of internet Alt-Right activists and online forums that furthered the “Pizzagate” conspiracy have also spread the QAnon conspiracy theory.
Here are some of the other bizarre, totally inaccurate predictions that QAnon has made:
01/21/18 – A flood was alleged to be coming. A flood consisting of various forms of media that I imagine were supposed to implicate somebody in something nefarious. Sadly, this flood never came.
01/21/18 – Q makes some very certain claims about the Nunes Memo, which of course do not come remotely true when the memo is released a couple weeks later.
01/22/18 – Q posts a confirmed fake Podesta email, then promptly deletes it. But not before his followers have time to notice. 02/09/18 – Next week [Next week] was declared ‘suicide weekend‘. Nothing came to pass.
02/21/18 – Q predicts that the founder of Twitter is removing accounts because he and his Deep State friends are in deep trouble. Nothing came to pass.
03/15/18 – Q declares ‘March Madness’ and that ‘the public will soon know’. Nothing came to pass.
04/02/18 – April was supposed to be a “BIG month“, full of happenings including but not limited to arrests, the release of the IG report, the wall, “military start”, and unsealed indictments. Nothing came to pass.
Where Does QAnon Go From Here?
Things have gotten even stranger for the QAnon conspiracists now that Special Counsel Robert Mueller has submitted his final report. While the report has not yet been made public, Attorney General William Barr has seen it, and he has issued a summary of the report.
AG Barr explains that Mueller has not proven any collusion or coordination between President Donald Trump, his top 2016 campaign staffers, and Russian intelligence. The focus of the investigation was Donald Trump and his 2016 presidential campaign. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John Podesta, or even John McCain were not targets of the Mueller probe in any way as Q promised.
The fact that the QAnon conspiracy theory is tied in with the “Pizzagate” fiasco is bad enough. The more damaging part is that these cult-like actors link themselves to the Trump movement, despite the fact that no member of the Trump movement has anything to do with these insane theories. They are the outgrowth of a pathetic group who exist online, in the dark corners of the worldwide web. That they have attached their delusions to the Trump movement is unfortunate.
But, they do not represent and are not affiliated with President Trump, his supporters, or those who work for the president.
Recently, some Q supporters have insisted that certain pictures of President Trump and key advisers in the White House “prove” that they are, in fact, members of the Q conspiracy because their positioning makes it appear as though they are displaying subliminal messages about Q. These internet personalities claim to be supporting the President. Yet, consistently, their actions have shown that they are not allies of the President. They damage and besmirch the Trump movement with their irresponsible actions.
In that their actions, both directly and indirectly, aid those who would do damage to the Make America Great Again Agenda and see it fail. Whoever Q or QAnon may be, they are most decidedly not close to the President, they are not Conservatives, and with every post they make, they subvert the MAGA Agenda.
And he had such potential. He coulda been a contender.
his crappy twitter follower knows a graphic designer at work, lol....
I’ma going back to the real world.. we’ve got a country to save.
(TRIGGER!!!!!!!)
Are they dumping everything? Looks to be more files by the minute. Deadman’s switch?
https://file.wikileaks.org/file/
Sorry, meant to post on a different thread.
You related to them Krassenstein boys by chance?
I am a disinterested observer who happened upon this thread by chance, but after reading from the beginning, I must say that you have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Romey is a paid shill, and that he’s not very smart. If he had any sense of dignity, he would slink away quietly, and change his id.
what is the rhyme or reason for this thread ?
Time to shut it down as it pretty much violates JR’s rules.
and it’s starting to look like it’s being treated like Rawlings-Blake treated the baltimore rioters.
Enough already.
Some nut might just internalize that and go a-tilting
at windmills for a decade or so just out of meanness.
Rubbish. I’m not sharing Dr. Gorka’s article or one of the live streams about the QAnon hoax for money.
I do it for love of country.
No I’m not preying insect, absolutely not. I’m not an atheist pretending to be a Christian who scams people writing about regrowing limbs and bringing people back from the dead (for a price of course).
I’m not someone like preying insect who beat and stalked his wife (public records).
I’m not someone who prey on the Baby Boomers and their disappointment with the GOPe by globbing onto the QAnon hoax and posting as QAnon and then making money by asking people to pay me for “decoding” it.
No, I’m not a scammer feasting on Trump supporters. Thank you.
Why would I respond to someone who is not of this earth making things up.
You guys should start your own Qult. You like making things up so that puts you 60% of the way there.
Shoot, beat preying insect and Pamphlet Coleman at their own QAnon game and start your own religion!
Why would I associate or support those grifters, just another bunch of grifters like the QAnon scammers!
SMH, the utter density.
Urging censorship over the news with Seb Gorka adding to the mix of people who have actually worked with and advised President Trump that publicly state QAnon is a hoax.
How very interesting.
Sean Spicer also came out in the last few days saying same.
Hopefully, no one puts out an article about it. Then you’ll want to censor that too no doubt.
Sad!
I’ve not grifted anything. Your personal attack is a reflection on your inability to deal with and respond to facts in an article by someone who knows and has worked with President Trump in the White House.
Your personal attack is unwarranted and a fabrication.
None of you dealt with only a few listed QAnon whoppers. How interesting.
01/21/18 – A flood was alleged to be coming. A flood consisting of various forms of media that I imagine were supposed to implicate somebody in something nefarious. Sadly, this flood never came.
01/21/18 – Q makes some very certain claims about the Nunes Memo, which of course do not come remotely true when the memo is released a couple weeks later.
01/22/18 – Q posts a confirmed fake Podesta email, then promptly deletes it. But not before his followers have time to notice. 02/09/18 – Next week [Next week] was declared ‘suicide weekend‘. Nothing came to pass.
02/21/18 – Q predicts that the founder of Twitter is removing accounts because he and his Deep State friends are in deep trouble. Nothing came to pass.
03/15/18 – Q declares ‘March Madness’ and that ‘the public will soon know’. Nothing came to pass.
04/02/18 – April was supposed to be a “BIG month“, full of happenings including but not limited to arrests, the release of the IG report, the wall, “military start”, and unsealed indictments. Nothing came to pass.
Lol try again Troll
You repost your dumb claims I’ll just repost the answer I already gave
PS let me know when you done with memes and post where q said Mueller and Trump are working together
Like the derp claiming that Q said “military start” but nothing happened
White House directs Army Corps of Engineers to look at ways to fund border security
Fox News is told. The Military Construction appropriations bill could provide additional funding in the event of an emergency declaration.
Or that “suicide weekend” never occurred
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/secret-service-responds-reports-shots-fired-white-house-n852921
Man fires gun and commits suicide in front of the White House
I also like gorka’s claim that Twitter isn’t censoring conservatives
https://nypost.com/2018/09/05/twitter-ceo-we-dont-censor-conservatives
Twitter CEO: We don’t censor conservatives
We will have to revisit this ridiculous thread after the OIG report is released next month.
I’ll tell you what the derps honestly remind me of is the Atlanta falcons in the third quarter they think they have a big lead but it’s Trump’s turn to go on offense...
So the trolls can talk crap all game I know who is going home with the trophy.
Why don’t any of you ever answer the actual points the article?
Why must you repost the same propaganda in response?
Telling.
Mueller’s old boss delays departure as probe wraps up
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/19/rod-rosenstein-mueller-report-1228315
Now see if you can figure out the political benefit of having the same guy that signed the fourth FISA warrant, the same guy that wrote the letter recommending firing Comey, the same guy that brought in Mueller as special counsel, the same guy that expanded the scope of the Mueller probe, Is the same guy that
CO-SIGNED BARR’S LETTER THAT TRUMP DID NOT COMMIT COLLUSION
Can youbwrapnyour little mind around why that is good for Trump?
If not just post another dumb meme you googled
This is a rational argument? “QAnon is in my pants?”
I stopped over to see what was going on over here on the “Gorka” thread and this is what I come across. 5-10 Freeqs trying to make a point and this childish avoidance of actual discussion. This is a pointless exercise. I understand why some would wish to engage the idiocy but not me. I’m going back over to talk amongst the adults. You people have a nice
Weekend.
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