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Posted on 04/10/2019 10:11:03 AM PDT by romanesq
During the 2018 Midterms in the United States, strange signs started appearing at political rallies. Held up by non-descript attendees, the signs read simply, We are Q. For those Trekkers out there, you might be confused: no, these rallygoers were not making an oblique reference to the infamous Star Trek: The Next Generation character portrayed by John de Lancie. The group appeared from the fringes of internet chat rooms, such as on the website of 4Chan, a peculiar mixture of cyberpunks and various online misfits.
Q is derived from an anonymous poster on the internet forum, a source claiming to have a top secret clearance with the U.S. intelligence community. This person (or group of people) spun an intricate conspiracy theory that many Far Right activists on gonzo internet forums picked up and began disseminating to wider audiences online and in their communities.
The conspiracy goes like this: the real purpose of the Robert Mueller special counsel investigation was not to investigate Donald Trump, but instead to investigate Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and people like former Hillary Clinton campaign chairman, John Podesta. The QAnon conspiracy theory is far-reaching, with new pieces added with regularity, in the form of what Q supporters refer to as breadcrumbs. One such addition to the conspiracy theory last year was that the Mueller probe was also looking into the now-deceased Senator John McCain (R-AZ) for his illegal activities.
What is the ultimate end of the QAnon conspiracy; what does Mueller hope to achieve, according to them?
That part, like most conspiracy theories, is conveniently not knowable. The Mueller investigation, having ended in a whimper rather than the bang the Trump-hating Fake News was hoping for, should have been the end of the QAnon conspiracy theory. QAnon conspiracy theorists have simultaneously argued that the ultimate target of the Mueller investigation is either the Deep State of nefarious anti-American, globalist actors, or the aim is to pursue high-profile pedophiles in the United States government and in other powerful circles related to the government.
QAnons Pernicious Connections to Pizzagate
Now for the most pernicious aspect of the QAnon conspiracy theory. In 2016, conspiracists on 4Chan and other similar fringe messaging boards claimed that the emails stolen from Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podestas (and subsequently made public by WikiLeaks) contained secret messages referring to a powerful ring of pedophiles who were using a local Washington, D.C. pizzeria as a base of operations to conduct their crimes. None of these claims were true. But, what ended up happening was that the highly irresponsible conspiracy theory triggered a mentally unstable man, who in turn took a gun to a D.C. pizzeria with intent to use it.
The source material for these theories is the vile, uber-fringe 4Chan and 8Chan. 4Chan was launched in 2003 as a place to share images and discuss Japanese anime. In fact, it was modeled on the Japanese anime internet boards, such as Futaba Channel. Over time, though, the already eclectic group of online personalities that 4Chan attracted devolved into something darker. It became a haven for crazed conspiracy theorists from both sides of the political divide. 4Chan also became popular among the white nationalist community, and also became a place for hackers and other criminalsincluding child pornographers. If there was a Hell on the internet, 4Chan was Hell.
Meanwhile, a similar website, created by gonzo software developer, Frederick Brennan, 8Chan was launched in 2013 as a response to what Brennan believed was the rise in authoritarianism, censorship, and surveillance on 4Chan. Despite the fact that 8Chan has become the 3,857th most viewed website in the world, with an average of 35,000 unique visitors per day and 400,000 original posts per day, it too has become mired in controversy. 8Chan, which has been billed as the more libertarian (though, perhaps libertine would be better) 4Chan, has apparently become a hub of international child pornography postings. This became such a problem that, in 2015, 8Chan was blacklisted by Google search. It is a profound understatement to claim that anything positive or good comes from these boards. Yet, it is precisely from sites like these that the Pizzagate and now the QAnon conspiracy theories emanate.
Alternative media figures, such as Mike Cernovich, have also furthered the Pizzagate and QAnon conspiracy theories. Some of these individuals have massive social media followings. With big internet names furthering the conspiracies, it was only a matter of time before disaster struck. In 2016, when the pizzeria shooting happened, several media outlets attempted to lay the blame at the feet of people like Cernovich. This only gave the Fake News Industrial Complex more fuel in their ongoing war against President Trump and the Right.
The very same group of internet Alt-Right activists and online forums that furthered the Pizzagate conspiracy have also spread the QAnon conspiracy theory.
Here are some of the other bizarre, totally inaccurate predictions that QAnon has made:
01/21/18 A flood was alleged to be coming. A flood consisting of various forms of media that I imagine were supposed to implicate somebody in something nefarious. Sadly, this flood never came.
01/21/18 Q makes some very certain claims about the Nunes Memo, which of course do not come remotely true when the memo is released a couple weeks later.
01/22/18 Q posts a confirmed fake Podesta email, then promptly deletes it. But not before his followers have time to notice. 02/09/18 Next week [Next week] was declared suicide weekend. Nothing came to pass.
02/21/18 Q predicts that the founder of Twitter is removing accounts because he and his Deep State friends are in deep trouble. Nothing came to pass.
03/15/18 Q declares March Madness and that the public will soon know. Nothing came to pass.
04/02/18 April was supposed to be a BIG month, full of happenings including but not limited to arrests, the release of the IG report, the wall, military start, and unsealed indictments. Nothing came to pass.
Where Does QAnon Go From Here?
Things have gotten even stranger for the QAnon conspiracists now that Special Counsel Robert Mueller has submitted his final report. While the report has not yet been made public, Attorney General William Barr has seen it, and he has issued a summary of the report.
AG Barr explains that Mueller has not proven any collusion or coordination between President Donald Trump, his top 2016 campaign staffers, and Russian intelligence. The focus of the investigation was Donald Trump and his 2016 presidential campaign. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John Podesta, or even John McCain were not targets of the Mueller probe in any way as Q promised.
The fact that the QAnon conspiracy theory is tied in with the Pizzagate fiasco is bad enough. The more damaging part is that these cult-like actors link themselves to the Trump movement, despite the fact that no member of the Trump movement has anything to do with these insane theories. They are the outgrowth of a pathetic group who exist online, in the dark corners of the worldwide web. That they have attached their delusions to the Trump movement is unfortunate.
But, they do not represent and are not affiliated with President Trump, his supporters, or those who work for the president.
Recently, some Q supporters have insisted that certain pictures of President Trump and key advisers in the White House prove that they are, in fact, members of the Q conspiracy because their positioning makes it appear as though they are displaying subliminal messages about Q. These internet personalities claim to be supporting the President. Yet, consistently, their actions have shown that they are not allies of the President. They damage and besmirch the Trump movement with their irresponsible actions.
In that their actions, both directly and indirectly, aid those who would do damage to the Make America Great Again Agenda and see it fail. Whoever Q or QAnon may be, they are most decidedly not close to the President, they are not Conservatives, and with every post they make, they subvert the MAGA Agenda.
“Do you realize its our corrupt enemy media still propping up North Korea as the boogeyman for their own political purposes?”
Oh man, I’m sorry. I thought you were serious in your posts, but now I see that you are just posting sarcastically as some clever trolling operation.
Carry on good sir.
No, I’m impressed now bags. You told us you know QAnon.
Whether it’s preying insect or Pamphlet Coleman, you definitely are an insider with those QAnon poster/decoders.
Just make sure you get a decent cut of the grift man. :)
Of course you can. I've always had a thing for the iron lady.
That was an excellent find, btw. I wonder what these trolls have to say about that?
Nothing, apparently. Probly waiting for Sebastian Gorka to weigh in.
That you know of. Cause you're briefed on the military capabilities of all our military bases?
But let's say you're right. Since it was obviously a missile launch, where could it have possibly come from? Play along. We'll have you decoding Q lickety split, mickety. By diggety.
Now go back to what Q posted and use what we've discussed and what your pea brain can accept as possible, and see what you actually think. Not what you're programmed to think.
This stuff ain't that hard.
You’re a dear to me, Maggie!
What timing! I saw your post here first!
When we all get over the shock and awe of it,
perhaps “The Great Roman Divider” will note the
connection between the NSA’s timely message, and
the General’s message I’ve been trying to get him
to respond to.
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3741004/posts?page=562#562
Are we enjoying the show, yet?! LOL!!!
~Easy
Sauce is boss:
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/goodgovernment/tools/visitor-records
You act like you know the level of treason and sedition. I put it to you that you have no idea, sir.
Would you call a foreign government, like say, the UK, conspiring to overthrow a duly elected US President an act of war?
Would you then consider any US citizen who conspired with that foreign power to be waging war against their own country? And perhaps plotted and even attempted to assassinate a sitting President in collusion with said foreign power?
My point is this. Stop talking like you sit on the Supreme Court. You don't. These questions will be decided in the Supreme Court at some point in the future.
You can bet your nalgas on that.
Because these acts did take place. How do I know?
Again, Q told me. The choice to know is yours.
And....scene.
Goodnight gentlemen. It's been a pleasure.
Best line of the night? "It was a helicopter".
Still crackin' up on that one.
Good thread, romanesq. We'll have to do this again someday.
Like Matt Damon told John Malkovich in "Rounders", "Cause I can keep bustin'you up all night".
Farewell, and have a good day.
The closer you will be to honesty
***************** Here's What was actually posted
Notice it doesn't have a date but an event
***************** MUELLER > DECLAS > OIG > TRUTH > JUSTICE
***************** First Mueller report then declassification then OIG report then Justice
*************** Try again
*************** Sorry you wasted all that time typing a long useless reply...
*************** But the ad hominem was a nice touch
***************
Of course I pay attention to what the president says not some lame troll that claims everyone agrees with them
*************** *************** Trump accuses some who investigated him of treasonous actions
*************** President Donald Trump on Monday accused unnamed people involved in the Justice Departments special counsel investigation of treasonous acts and said he is not opposed to the release of Robert S. Mueller IIIs report.
He also vowed that unnamed individuals that played a role in the Justice Departments actions related to his campaign and Russia will be looked at. He did not explain what that might mean, but he alleged those people committed treasonous and evil acts.
***************
So you Stick with the msm and the mouse in your pocket that agrees with you. I'll stick with POTUS
Ya, what was that pimp lady doing at the White House? And FOUR times?
Alison Mack x100, or so they say.
But don't worry. Pizzagate is a conspiracy theory. Ha.
#BedtimeForBagzo
Stop ruining Mickety's talking point, C-Cat.
‘nite Bags!
Good times!
Yeah, you and Brian are legends in your own minds.
I’ll be back to laugh when the Feds drag out your hoaxing heroes in handcuffs.
It’ll almost be as good as when the Russia Collusion Hoax went down in flames.
Damn that’s a shame you’ll have to wait forever,
cause bagster and I have been laughing at you trolls for months
469 on 4/11 thread and toward the end of 4/06 thread. Pinged you on 469.
Actually no, the Air Rescue helicopter's departure time and location were confirmed independently using flight tracking software Flight Tracker. So we know exactly where the chopper was and when it took off. In addition, the two people on board and their flight log make excellent eye witnesses.
There is also an entire genre of optical illusions using light and time lapse cameras that you'd have to debunk before dismissing the helicopter as the cause. Not to mention any number of amateur experiments that demonstrate the very phenomena the Skunk Bay observatory camera captured.
There is no doubt it is a missile
You've presented 0% evidence of a missile launch and I 100% guarantee you never will.
Sock monkeys never provide evidence, and you're no different.
The event time is wrong as well as the event description.
Not sure where this beach is and not clicking on Fakebook to find out.
All you have is have is lame hearsay Spread 2nd and 3rd hand by the media
Last time I checked photos are allowed as evidence in court hearsay is not
Try again
Now I have seen your other posts so I know you are a little slow so to review and To be clear
I posted what you can see for yourself. You posted what someone says some told them they saw
Let’s say, just for kicks, you find a bunch of non MAGA
folks who have made money off of “Q”.
(Or frame a few maga folks, just trying to do a little good
and justify/negotiate the expense to a spouse.)
What then? What “MAGA” purpose will you apply your findings
to?
Perhaps you can turn Mr. Gorka’s big head in the direction
of my posts to you:
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3741004/posts?page=562#562
and get his advise.
Be sure to show him Maggie’s NSA Tweet news as well.
Oh, and he should think it over a bit.
What doesn’t kill us, makes us stronger.
The army will still be here.
Because the army is just us.
All of us.
~Easy
WWG1WGA
MAGA
KAG
Understanding that not everyone will be able to “research’ what’s out there and see how the QAnon hoax conned people but you should know about some of the violence and the threat it poses to the president.
Recently, there was a murder on Staten Island by a Q disciple. He showed up in court with a Q on his hand pointing it to the media present. His attorney blamed the QAnon cult and pointed at President Trump as responsible.
So, as the DNC Media is attracted to this like a moth to a flame, it not only makes Trump supporters look like morons it puts President Trump in the mix.
I’m sure this will go right over the heads of the Qult.
People better start waking up.
Since it is your assertion, this is a question YOU need to answer.
Stop being a little b*tch about it too.
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