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Posted on 04/10/2019 10:11:03 AM PDT by romanesq
During the 2018 Midterms in the United States, strange signs started appearing at political rallies. Held up by non-descript attendees, the signs read simply, “We are Q.” For those Trekkers out there, you might be confused: no, these rallygoers were not making an oblique reference to the infamous Star Trek: The Next Generation character portrayed by John de Lancie. The group appeared from the fringes of internet chat rooms, such as on the website of 4Chan, a peculiar mixture of cyberpunks and various online misfits.
“Q” is derived from an anonymous poster on the internet forum, a source claiming to have a top secret clearance with the U.S. intelligence community. This person (or group of people) spun an intricate conspiracy theory that many Far Right activists on gonzo internet forums picked up and began disseminating to wider audiences online and in their communities.
The conspiracy goes like this: the real purpose of the Robert Mueller special counsel investigation was not to investigate Donald Trump, but instead to investigate Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and people like former Hillary Clinton campaign chairman, John Podesta. The QAnon conspiracy theory is far-reaching, with new pieces added with regularity, in the form of what Q supporters refer to as “breadcrumbs.” One such addition to the conspiracy theory last year was that the Mueller probe was also looking into the now-deceased Senator John McCain (R-AZ) for his illegal activities.
What is the ultimate end of the QAnon conspiracy; what does Mueller hope to achieve, according to them?
That part, like most conspiracy theories, is conveniently not knowable. The Mueller investigation, having ended in a whimper rather than the bang the Trump-hating Fake News was hoping for, should have been the end of the QAnon conspiracy theory. QAnon conspiracy theorists have simultaneously argued that the ultimate target of the Mueller investigation is either the “Deep State” of nefarious anti-American, globalist actors, or the aim is to pursue high-profile pedophiles in the United States government and in other powerful circles related to the government.
QAnon’s Pernicious Connections to “Pizzagate”
Now for the most pernicious aspect of the QAnon conspiracy theory. In 2016, conspiracists on 4Chan and other similar fringe messaging boards claimed that the emails stolen from Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s (and subsequently made public by WikiLeaks) contained secret messages referring to a powerful ring of pedophiles who were using a local Washington, D.C. pizzeria as a base of operations to conduct their crimes. None of these claims were true. But, what ended up happening was that the highly irresponsible conspiracy theory triggered a mentally unstable man, who in turn took a gun to a D.C. pizzeria with intent to use it.
The source material for these theories is the vile, uber-fringe 4Chan and 8Chan. 4Chan was launched in 2003 as a place to share images and discuss Japanese anime. In fact, it was modeled on the Japanese anime internet boards, such as Futaba Channel. Over time, though, the already eclectic group of online personalities that 4Chan attracted devolved into something darker. It became a haven for crazed conspiracy theorists from both sides of the political divide. 4Chan also became popular among the white nationalist community, and also became a place for hackers and other criminals–including child pornographers. If there was a Hell on the internet, 4Chan was Hell.
Meanwhile, a similar website, created by gonzo software developer, Frederick Brennan, 8Chan was launched in 2013 as a response to what Brennan believed was the rise in authoritarianism, censorship, and surveillance on 4Chan. Despite the fact that 8Chan has become the 3,857th most viewed website in the world, with an average of 35,000 unique visitors per day and 400,000 original posts per day, it too has become mired in controversy. 8Chan, which has been billed as the more libertarian (though, perhaps libertine would be better) 4Chan, has apparently become a hub of international child pornography postings. This became such a problem that, in 2015, 8Chan was blacklisted by Google search. It is a profound understatement to claim that anything positive or good comes from these boards. Yet, it is precisely from sites like these that the “Pizzagate” and now the QAnon conspiracy theories emanate.
Alternative media figures, such as Mike Cernovich, have also furthered the “Pizzagate” and QAnon conspiracy theories. Some of these individuals have massive social media followings. With big internet names furthering the conspiracies, it was only a matter of time before disaster struck. In 2016, when the pizzeria shooting happened, several media outlets attempted to lay the blame at the feet of people like Cernovich. This only gave the Fake News Industrial Complex more fuel in their ongoing war against President Trump and the Right.
The very same group of internet Alt-Right activists and online forums that furthered the “Pizzagate” conspiracy have also spread the QAnon conspiracy theory.
Here are some of the other bizarre, totally inaccurate predictions that QAnon has made:
01/21/18 – A flood was alleged to be coming. A flood consisting of various forms of media that I imagine were supposed to implicate somebody in something nefarious. Sadly, this flood never came.
01/21/18 – Q makes some very certain claims about the Nunes Memo, which of course do not come remotely true when the memo is released a couple weeks later.
01/22/18 – Q posts a confirmed fake Podesta email, then promptly deletes it. But not before his followers have time to notice. 02/09/18 – Next week [Next week] was declared ‘suicide weekend‘. Nothing came to pass.
02/21/18 – Q predicts that the founder of Twitter is removing accounts because he and his Deep State friends are in deep trouble. Nothing came to pass.
03/15/18 – Q declares ‘March Madness’ and that ‘the public will soon know’. Nothing came to pass.
04/02/18 – April was supposed to be a “BIG month“, full of happenings including but not limited to arrests, the release of the IG report, the wall, “military start”, and unsealed indictments. Nothing came to pass.
Where Does QAnon Go From Here?
Things have gotten even stranger for the QAnon conspiracists now that Special Counsel Robert Mueller has submitted his final report. While the report has not yet been made public, Attorney General William Barr has seen it, and he has issued a summary of the report.
AG Barr explains that Mueller has not proven any collusion or coordination between President Donald Trump, his top 2016 campaign staffers, and Russian intelligence. The focus of the investigation was Donald Trump and his 2016 presidential campaign. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John Podesta, or even John McCain were not targets of the Mueller probe in any way as Q promised.
The fact that the QAnon conspiracy theory is tied in with the “Pizzagate” fiasco is bad enough. The more damaging part is that these cult-like actors link themselves to the Trump movement, despite the fact that no member of the Trump movement has anything to do with these insane theories. They are the outgrowth of a pathetic group who exist online, in the dark corners of the worldwide web. That they have attached their delusions to the Trump movement is unfortunate.
But, they do not represent and are not affiliated with President Trump, his supporters, or those who work for the president.
Recently, some Q supporters have insisted that certain pictures of President Trump and key advisers in the White House “prove” that they are, in fact, members of the Q conspiracy because their positioning makes it appear as though they are displaying subliminal messages about Q. These internet personalities claim to be supporting the President. Yet, consistently, their actions have shown that they are not allies of the President. They damage and besmirch the Trump movement with their irresponsible actions.
In that their actions, both directly and indirectly, aid those who would do damage to the Make America Great Again Agenda and see it fail. Whoever Q or QAnon may be, they are most decidedly not close to the President, they are not Conservatives, and with every post they make, they subvert the MAGA Agenda.
No they didn’t
And Bagster showed you above
The five stages of grief
1. Denial and isolation;
2. Anger;
3. Bargaining;
4. Depression;
5. Acceptance.
You are at #1
RomanisntQ is at #2
You guys will say ANYTHING.
And I bet if I showed you the bajilionty other "Q proofs" you do the same kinda watusi dance to explain how they are all, each and every one of them FAKE FAKE FAKE.
Just like explaining away an obvious missile launch as a "helicopter shining a beam of light out of the clouds."
This Q denial has become a clown show.
You watched it. And you got rick-rolled just like that other anti-Q cult member.
Don't lie.
Eat your meat!
This thread has been brought to you by meat, pudding, and the letter Q.
Yes, Seb Gorka’s close relationship as friend and advisor to President Trump and his family is obvious.
That Qult scam, not so much.
No, the reality is that tripcode purchaser preying insect who was trying to get in and leverage Maga Coalition for himself used the Q drops to attack them.
It’s backfired. Not only did stupid preying insect out himself as having a hand on the wheel directly on the QAnon droppings, he’s put focus on himself.
There are no issues with a tiny pro-Trump PAC, all their filings are in order. Nothing of note and Seb Gorka got a one-time payment made out to his wife (perfectly legal) for an event. Nothing more.
But now the alerting to preying insect’s “ministry” as he calls it “decoding” Q, well, that’s under real scrutiny.
Stay tuned!
Will you watch a video created at the invitation of
an active duty 4 star US Army general who wants to
give a message to this army?
The Future of War and how it affects YOU Multi-Domain Operations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOTYgcdNrXE
Still pimping those maga grifters?
Those Just trying to make money off Trump’s popularity?
Lol gorka getting called out on Twitter
Bards Of War
@BardsOfWar
Something getting you SPOOKed
@SebGorka
? Did your wife cut a deal with the [clowns] of McLean? Did you do something at a party you shouldn’t of done?
There is always time to repent. The Redeemer is waiting. But time is running short.
Sleep well.
#OpWhiteRose
#BardsOfWar
Our work here is done LoL
MAGAcoalition.com like Seb Gorka are true MAGA, not your anonymous Qult that feeds you lie after lie and yet you swallow more of the Qancer allowing it to gestate and grow within you.
Spreading the disease is so unseemly.
Be Careful Who You Follow: MAGA Coalition
Q
!!mG7VJxZNCI
25 Mar 2019 - 2:26:09 PM
Thank you, Anons, for bringing this to our attention.
Be careful who you follow.
Follow the money.
Follow the expenses.
magacoalition.com
opensecrets.org/pacs/expenditures sebastian-gorka-leaves-pizzagate-super-pac
twitter.com/drawandstrike/status www.irs.gov/individuals/how-do-you-report-suspected-tax-fraud-activity www.fbi.gov/tips
Q
____________________
3222
Some Organizations Do Not Have Good Intentions
Q
!!mG7VJxZNCI
27 Mar 2019 - 1:39:15 PM
Anonymous
27 Mar 2019 - 1:29:26 PM
Q-Digging on MAGA Coalition shows obvious fraud. Also those associated are non-stop attacking and obviously coordinated. Why would a PAC attack us? This in itself shows its FAKE. This PAC also engages known shills/frauds. Do we still dig? Many reported to the IRS.
Some organizations do not have good intentions. Due diligence required. We highlighted this particular organization as one example. Magacoalition.com
www.opensecrets.org/pacs
docquery.fec.gov
docquery.fec.gov Follow the money.
Track donations vs. expenses.
Admin, fundraising, strategy & research, etc etc expenses highly inflated?
Monthly installment payments made to ‘names’ who can attract ‘more donations’? (the “wheel”)
How much ‘donated’ money was actually spent promoting MAGA / PRO_MAGA candidates (indirectly) vs. internal costs or ‘wheel’ costs?
www.irs.gov/individuals/how-do-you-report-suspected-tax-fraud-activity
When you offer ‘better’ goods and services for free there is no longer a need to ‘donate’ ‘purchase’ and/or ‘follow’ those who would use such platforms to enrich themselves. (hence the ‘attacks’)
Logical thinking always wins.
Attempts to ‘divide’ the movement draws LIGHT to their TRUE INTENTIONS.
This is about the survival of our Nation (our World) – not funding scams.
End_of_Topic
Keep your eye on the ball.
Q
_______________
Because you are too lazy to research these links, I'll highlight a couple of tidbits from some of them.
Brian Cates
@drawandstrike
· Sep 19, 2018
Replying to
@drawandstrike
So let's sum up what we have so far, shall we? A convicted felon with a history of scamming orgs out of their donor's money gets out of prison for his last scam & in less than a full year The MAGA Coalition is handing him $60,000 of their donor's money.
HOME / CAMPAIGN FINANCE DATA / COMMITTEE DETAILS / HTML VIEWER SCHEDULE B ITEMIZED ISBURSEMENTS
(excerpt)
Committee: MAGA COALITION INC
Threat Knowledge Group, LLC
6841 Elm Street # 1182
McLean, Virginia 22101
09/01/2017
Consulting Services from Dr. Sebastian G
20000.00
Threat Knowledge Group, LLC
6841 Elm Street # 1182
McLean, Virginia 22101
10/02/2017
Consulting Fee for Dr. Sebastian Gorka
20000.00
Threat Knowledge Group, LLC
6841 Elm Street # 1182
McLean, Virginia 22101
11/02/2017
Sebastian Gorka Consulting Fee
20000.00
Now, it's funny, cause YOU said this,
There are no issues with a tiny pro-Trump PAC, all their filings are in order. Nothing of note and Seb Gorka got a one-time payment made out to his wife (perfectly legal) for an event. Nothing more.
We can plainly see that he took THREE payments of 20k over a three month period before he left his wife's organization.
So you are either ignorant, or a liar. I think I will name you liar, because you seem to have an inordinate need to defend MAGA COLATION and Gorka if it furthers your anti-Q cultism.
What else would explain why you are on MAGA COALITON'S and Gorka's jock so hard? You are a shill, sir. And a liar.
And I call you that because that is what you are.
I love the smell of napalm in the Qmorning. Smells like exposure.
I’m not the government. I heard the Feds are looking at the scam and the scammers, if you hadn’t noticed, have barely said anything at all in weeks let alone April.
Duh.
No one supplies me with anything. I have this thing called a brain. I live in a Free Republic with a Constitution. I’m not awaiting martial law, Santa’s 1,000,000 indictments and planes taking thousands away to GITMO. SMH.
You insult Dr. Gorka, a friend to POTUS and true MAGA to this day. Shoot, even President Trump’s son told you exactly that a mere day after your anonymous idol attacked him. Smell the coffee already, sheesh.
You assail a tiny Trump PAC as shady with zero evidence to back it up. All because they exposed some grifters running an internet hoax you adore.
Sad.
Lots of noise and quite a bit of filler. Nothing of substance, just Alinsky attacks that can’t back up the facts.
Do you know who your idol Brian Cates is?
Here's the cliff notes just in case you have an ounce of intellectual curiosity or integrity, which I doubt.
You said Gorka took a "one time payment" from MAGA COALITION for some type of "event".
Their own records and FEC filiings (which you just LOVE to cite) show that he took THREE payments over THREE months of 20k payments each for "consulting fees, until he left his wife's organization due to it's pizzagate associations (amongst other things) so he could go work at the White House.
So, you lied. Either through ignorance or deceptive intent. I think it's the latter.
You seem to be doing anything you can to besmirch Trump's Q program up to and including hitching your wagon to this shady PAC and the grifter Gorka, who would sell his name to this money laundering organization that you love so well.
You sir, are outted.
Bailiff, remove this man from my courtroom.
And have a nice day.
“You watched it.”
Nope.
Attacking the messenger again?
It doesn't matter who Cates is. It's the truth I'm looking for, and he has some.
Do you have any response to being caught in an obvious and blatant lie, Mister FEC?
I didn't think so.
All of a sudden FEC filings are "filler".
You are a piece of work, sir.
“No they didn’t”
Yes they did.
“And Bagster showed you above”
Bagster made the usual exQses that are made when Q is exposed as a fraud. Sorry, but the photo Q posted is an obvious fake, and if Q were legit, he wouldn’t need to make badly photoshopped fake photos. Deal with it, he’s a fraud.
Bagster gorka just provides the tolls here cover they can pretend a pro trump person is anti Q so they can also pretend they aren’t parroting the exact same claims as the Washington post ny times and the entire MSM
Which everyone on FR knows is total bunk
Their alleged “proof” is gorka gets called out as nothing more that a fake maga grifter
And they trolls think gorka’s response of “I know you are but what am I” is somehow the ultimate proof
It’s laughable
It’s Also why the only people that believe it are the same 5 trolls since the beginning of time
Repeating the same disproved lies over and over
Q said Mueller and trump are working together
It was a helicopter over whidby island
That picture isn’t from AF1
Their utter desperation at this point is entertaining
As every day that passes it becomes more clear that not only is something happening it has been happening for a while, and while we had a front row seat to watch it they wasted their time pretending it can’t be
The next couple months are going to be spectacular with some of them eating crow and admitting they were wrong
Some claiming they knew it all along and some just skulking back to the Derp state never to be heard from again
Myself, i’m looking forward to this upcoming week and who nunes named on his criminal referrals and the dems despair as Barr releases the Mueller report
Yep.
But let's just say hypothetically that you didn't.
That would only prove that you have no desire to look at any evidence that goes against your cult-like Salem witch trial aversion to facts.
It would explain why you have closed your small mind to any evidence contrary to your world view and are so adamant that something like Q could even be possible.
Your cult is all the same in that regard.
But it's okay. I know you got rick-rolled.
Can't fool me.
I’m dealing with it fine
Sorry you can’t accept reality
So why is the furniture bolted in place on AF1, have you figured it out yet?
Or are you Still in denial that it’s relevant?
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