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Posted on 04/10/2019 10:11:03 AM PDT by romanesq
During the 2018 Midterms in the United States, strange signs started appearing at political rallies. Held up by non-descript attendees, the signs read simply, “We are Q.” For those Trekkers out there, you might be confused: no, these rallygoers were not making an oblique reference to the infamous Star Trek: The Next Generation character portrayed by John de Lancie. The group appeared from the fringes of internet chat rooms, such as on the website of 4Chan, a peculiar mixture of cyberpunks and various online misfits.
“Q” is derived from an anonymous poster on the internet forum, a source claiming to have a top secret clearance with the U.S. intelligence community. This person (or group of people) spun an intricate conspiracy theory that many Far Right activists on gonzo internet forums picked up and began disseminating to wider audiences online and in their communities.
The conspiracy goes like this: the real purpose of the Robert Mueller special counsel investigation was not to investigate Donald Trump, but instead to investigate Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and people like former Hillary Clinton campaign chairman, John Podesta. The QAnon conspiracy theory is far-reaching, with new pieces added with regularity, in the form of what Q supporters refer to as “breadcrumbs.” One such addition to the conspiracy theory last year was that the Mueller probe was also looking into the now-deceased Senator John McCain (R-AZ) for his illegal activities.
What is the ultimate end of the QAnon conspiracy; what does Mueller hope to achieve, according to them?
That part, like most conspiracy theories, is conveniently not knowable. The Mueller investigation, having ended in a whimper rather than the bang the Trump-hating Fake News was hoping for, should have been the end of the QAnon conspiracy theory. QAnon conspiracy theorists have simultaneously argued that the ultimate target of the Mueller investigation is either the “Deep State” of nefarious anti-American, globalist actors, or the aim is to pursue high-profile pedophiles in the United States government and in other powerful circles related to the government.
QAnon’s Pernicious Connections to “Pizzagate”
Now for the most pernicious aspect of the QAnon conspiracy theory. In 2016, conspiracists on 4Chan and other similar fringe messaging boards claimed that the emails stolen from Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s (and subsequently made public by WikiLeaks) contained secret messages referring to a powerful ring of pedophiles who were using a local Washington, D.C. pizzeria as a base of operations to conduct their crimes. None of these claims were true. But, what ended up happening was that the highly irresponsible conspiracy theory triggered a mentally unstable man, who in turn took a gun to a D.C. pizzeria with intent to use it.
The source material for these theories is the vile, uber-fringe 4Chan and 8Chan. 4Chan was launched in 2003 as a place to share images and discuss Japanese anime. In fact, it was modeled on the Japanese anime internet boards, such as Futaba Channel. Over time, though, the already eclectic group of online personalities that 4Chan attracted devolved into something darker. It became a haven for crazed conspiracy theorists from both sides of the political divide. 4Chan also became popular among the white nationalist community, and also became a place for hackers and other criminals–including child pornographers. If there was a Hell on the internet, 4Chan was Hell.
Meanwhile, a similar website, created by gonzo software developer, Frederick Brennan, 8Chan was launched in 2013 as a response to what Brennan believed was the rise in authoritarianism, censorship, and surveillance on 4Chan. Despite the fact that 8Chan has become the 3,857th most viewed website in the world, with an average of 35,000 unique visitors per day and 400,000 original posts per day, it too has become mired in controversy. 8Chan, which has been billed as the more libertarian (though, perhaps libertine would be better) 4Chan, has apparently become a hub of international child pornography postings. This became such a problem that, in 2015, 8Chan was blacklisted by Google search. It is a profound understatement to claim that anything positive or good comes from these boards. Yet, it is precisely from sites like these that the “Pizzagate” and now the QAnon conspiracy theories emanate.
Alternative media figures, such as Mike Cernovich, have also furthered the “Pizzagate” and QAnon conspiracy theories. Some of these individuals have massive social media followings. With big internet names furthering the conspiracies, it was only a matter of time before disaster struck. In 2016, when the pizzeria shooting happened, several media outlets attempted to lay the blame at the feet of people like Cernovich. This only gave the Fake News Industrial Complex more fuel in their ongoing war against President Trump and the Right.
The very same group of internet Alt-Right activists and online forums that furthered the “Pizzagate” conspiracy have also spread the QAnon conspiracy theory.
Here are some of the other bizarre, totally inaccurate predictions that QAnon has made:
01/21/18 – A flood was alleged to be coming. A flood consisting of various forms of media that I imagine were supposed to implicate somebody in something nefarious. Sadly, this flood never came.
01/21/18 – Q makes some very certain claims about the Nunes Memo, which of course do not come remotely true when the memo is released a couple weeks later.
01/22/18 – Q posts a confirmed fake Podesta email, then promptly deletes it. But not before his followers have time to notice. 02/09/18 – Next week [Next week] was declared ‘suicide weekend‘. Nothing came to pass.
02/21/18 – Q predicts that the founder of Twitter is removing accounts because he and his Deep State friends are in deep trouble. Nothing came to pass.
03/15/18 – Q declares ‘March Madness’ and that ‘the public will soon know’. Nothing came to pass.
04/02/18 – April was supposed to be a “BIG month“, full of happenings including but not limited to arrests, the release of the IG report, the wall, “military start”, and unsealed indictments. Nothing came to pass.
Where Does QAnon Go From Here?
Things have gotten even stranger for the QAnon conspiracists now that Special Counsel Robert Mueller has submitted his final report. While the report has not yet been made public, Attorney General William Barr has seen it, and he has issued a summary of the report.
AG Barr explains that Mueller has not proven any collusion or coordination between President Donald Trump, his top 2016 campaign staffers, and Russian intelligence. The focus of the investigation was Donald Trump and his 2016 presidential campaign. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John Podesta, or even John McCain were not targets of the Mueller probe in any way as Q promised.
The fact that the QAnon conspiracy theory is tied in with the “Pizzagate” fiasco is bad enough. The more damaging part is that these cult-like actors link themselves to the Trump movement, despite the fact that no member of the Trump movement has anything to do with these insane theories. They are the outgrowth of a pathetic group who exist online, in the dark corners of the worldwide web. That they have attached their delusions to the Trump movement is unfortunate.
But, they do not represent and are not affiliated with President Trump, his supporters, or those who work for the president.
Recently, some Q supporters have insisted that certain pictures of President Trump and key advisers in the White House “prove” that they are, in fact, members of the Q conspiracy because their positioning makes it appear as though they are displaying subliminal messages about Q. These internet personalities claim to be supporting the President. Yet, consistently, their actions have shown that they are not allies of the President. They damage and besmirch the Trump movement with their irresponsible actions.
In that their actions, both directly and indirectly, aid those who would do damage to the Make America Great Again Agenda and see it fail. Whoever Q or QAnon may be, they are most decidedly not close to the President, they are not Conservatives, and with every post they make, they subvert the MAGA Agenda.
F you, shill. Just for that, I'm gonna have a terrible day.
You're not the boss of me.
And stupit.
p.s. Speaking of credibility. You're the one touting the fired Sebastian Gorka as this great personal friend and advisor to the President. EVEN AFTER HE GOT FIRED.
That sounds like a credibility issue to me, AND pretty stupit.
Right?
p.s. Did you hear that Gorka AND Spicer were fired? But they are credible sources.
p.p.s. You're a clown, bro. And not the smart kind of clown.
“That little PAC, MAGA Coaltion also did an event with Gov. Sarah Pallin and those two ladies, Diamond & Silk for Trump also attended.”
Darn, so that means Sarah Palin and Diamond & Silk must also be compromised deep state shills! Those bastards!!!
/sarc
Please don’t shoot the messenger but today’s Q could apply to Gorka’s blue checkmark on twitter.
Q post #3312 https://qanon.pub/
#3312 - If we are merely a LARP asking questions on the Chans, why are we being attacked daily by some of the world’s biggest media co’s, social media co’s deliberately applying censorship/banning, shills paid/inserted to disrupt (media matters), blue checkmark coordinated attacks, etc.?
All for a ‘conspiracy’ on the Chans?
All for a ‘LARP’?
Why is there a constant flow of disinformation being pushed re: Q?
Example:
Disinformation push re: Mueller is a white hat.
FAKE & FALSE narrative.
Think BLOCKADE.
When you can’t attack the information directly, you attack the source, if that fails, you ‘create false misleading information’ to discredit knowing ‘select’ ‘unaware’ followers would not take the time to self-corroborate the claims (same vehicle/tactics used by FAKE NEWS media).
Logical thinking always wins.
Nothing can stop what is coming.
As the target(s) turn to the other side, the attacks will intensify.
We have the source.
Q
You're leaving out one minor detail in your flawed logic chain, Booger.
Sarah Palin and Diamond and Silk weren't fired from the White House.
Relevant?
Decide.
Try not to be stupit like that other guy. ThankQ.
Haha. Q must have been reading this thread.
He's got your number, roman-shill.
Yes, this is good news as the in-fighting on which #QAnon grifter / “decoder” would get the bidding rights to write the Q droppings.
With all the big news, notice it’s about the exposure doing harm to the grift and absolutely nothing to do with all the big news that’s happening this month.
Anyone have a bell ringing asking, “Gee, isn’t that so very odd?” Ding, ding, ding!
So finally there’s a new Q writer obviously. He sounds just like that fat, bald dude who liked to beat up and stalk his wife but claims he’s a Christian.
Of course, I’m talking about preying insect. See the unveiling from real MAGA who worked for the Trump campaign in PA:
https://twitter.com/Gingrich_of_PA/status/1116432579282923520
We're Still waiting for him to post where Mueller and Trump are working together like he claimed several which was coincidentally also mentioned today...
Disinformation push re: Mueller is a white hat. FAKE & FALSE narrative.
“Much of the crime info on the drops is legitimate. I believe this was discovered through illegal hacking...thus the cryptic nature of many posts, to protect THEMSELVES from hacking charges”
One of the guys from 4chan who purports to have been one of the original “Q” posters did make a similar claim. He said that one of them hacked into a server where AP news stories were being hosted while they were still being edited, before going live. So there were able to then get advance information to put in Q drops a few hours before it would hit the media. They also got into a twitter server that allowed them to see tweets posted by the WH maybe 15 minutes before they were live on the rest of twitter, so they could pull their trick of putting a word or phrase in a Q post, then saying “Look! Trump just said the same thing!”.
They later lost access to that twitter server so they haven’t been able to use that trick anymore.
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When you can’t attack the information directly, you attack the source.
Right on cue (Q).
You're a walking stereotype, clownie.
Did you know Gorka and Spicer were fired?
ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!!
That's great, Booger.
How did those purporter nerdlings get original pics from inside Air Force 1?
Riddle me that, Einstein.
“How did those purporter nerdlings get original pics from inside Air Force 1?”
They weren’t original. They took already existing pictures and just did some basic photo manipulation on them so that it would be harder to find the original source with a reverse image search. Of course they didn’t make it impossible, and sure enough, people have found the original sources of a lot of those “insider” photos.
“Sarah Palin and Diamond and Silk weren’t fired from the White House.”
Well, that would hard, since they never worked for the White House. Still, they are obviously taking money from MAGACoalition, who reliable Q sources tell us is a deep state front operation, so Sarah Palin and Diamond & Silk are obviously deep state shills.
Wake up sheeple!!!!
Source?
(And don't give me Fake News citing unnamed sources)
Still can’t answer a question? Yup.
Await the programming codes then.
Seb Gorka is a close advisor and friend of President Trump to this day.
He’s working for President Trump to win re-election each and every day.
You of course fight for some douchey #QAnon “anonymous” grifters.
I’ve certainly illustrated plenty of attacks on “the information.” LOL!
Hey where is Assange walking free these days? What’s Sessions up to?
Oh and those 1,000,000 sealed indictments? Where’d they go?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I guess you'll say just about anything to justify your ignorance, eh Booger?
Sorry, but the proofs are overwhelming and undeniable.
Seriously on the pic story, bro?
If you believe those are real “live” shots perhaps you need to do some research.
They ain’t.
It’s part of the scam.
Anyone who thinks posting to the internet off AF1 while it’s in the air isn’t limited by security protocols isn’t doing research or all that bright.
Apply as needed.
Yea, that's kinda my point. THEY weren't fired from the White House but Gorka was.
Oh, hey. I hear the Clinton Foundation ACTUALLY gave a little money to a legit charity. So they must be a force for good in the world.
Your logic reeks, goodman, as usual.
How about the fact that you don’t care about the truth because of who’s side you think someone is on. I would call that pretty darn disgraceful.
Because you say? You know, you can't just say stuff like as if it's true, right?
Ya, that whole AF-1 original pic thing blows a hole in your whole "internet nerds that post as Q" theory, right?
#StopBeingStupit
Someone doesn’t know how Twitter works
LOL
But then some idiots will believe anything
See bagster they would get into Twitters server and they would not only see what Trump was typing they could see when it was going to be posted that’s how they can post the same thing at the exact same minute
Hahahahaha
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