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It isn’t only the universities. In New York City, Mayor Bill de Blasio has been trying to relax standards at the city’s top public high schools, admissions to which are now based on a single, highly competitive entrance exam. The mayor wants to abolish the test because he is mortified by the racial outcomes it produces. Last month it was reported that only seven of the 895 seats for the freshman class at Stuyvesant, the city’s most selective high school, went to African-Americans.

The mayor is right that this is an appalling statistic. But it’s telling that he’s angry at the test and not at the city’s public schools, which he runs, for failing to provide black and Latino children with an education that would make them competitive.

1 posted on 04/09/2019 8:40:04 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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it’s telling that he’s angry at the test and not at the city’s public schools, which he runs, for failing to provide black and Latino children with an education that would make them competitive.

The phrase "you can take the horse to water, but..." comes to mind. The public schools have failed but I cant help but think that in many cases, the culture has taught the horses to laugh at the thought of drinking.

2 posted on 04/09/2019 8:44:33 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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They do it with “gifted” classes right down through the elementary school level.


3 posted on 04/09/2019 8:46:27 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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Decades agao, I used to administer the SAT. And, the ACT, ATGSB and the GRE.

I have no doubt that people were sitting in for others on some of those tests.


4 posted on 04/09/2019 8:48:57 AM PDT by anton
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Policies of institutions are separate from the Law, but this still strikes me as a violation (in spirit) of the “equal protection” concept.

I want my kid treated just like your kid. That’s equality.
If you game the system so that your kid gets treated in a special way, I feel cheated.
If the institution games the system so that your kid gets treated in a special way, I feel cheated.

The “two-level” system is now endemic in our society. I am a peasant. And I am unhappy with the Lords.


5 posted on 04/09/2019 8:52:08 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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Just use the diversity card. It instantly makes your SAT scores irreverent.


6 posted on 04/09/2019 8:55:01 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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The article talks about ‘Asian Americans’ but harvard also has a fair number of Asian students who are not Americans. Do they get a score boost or not?


7 posted on 04/09/2019 8:56:09 AM PDT by posterchild
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But when an elite university inflates or devalues applicants’ SAT scores based on race—even as it insists it is not discriminating—that’s just business as usual.

Great point..!

9 posted on 04/09/2019 8:58:17 AM PDT by gaijin
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If you can get fake ID’s for food stamps, SSN, green card, why could you not get the much lower bar ID’s sufficient for a high-schooler to take the SAT..?

I’ll bet this goes on on a Yuuuuuuuuge scale.

And it’s secret.

Who doubts Chinese and Indian people look into this?


10 posted on 04/09/2019 9:00:33 AM PDT by gaijin
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Well, I shall relate a story. Here in my small Texas town, we had a High School student. He got expelled for some reason. He went to another nearby high school and made a name for himself as a football player. He got caught stealing and was expelled. The other high school decided to take him back due to his athletic abilities. Then, when it was time to take the college entrance exam, the school allowed him to have unlimited time, and to allow his tutor to be with him in a private room (he wasnt the brightest bulb in the box). Currently, he is now an NFL player and our town worships him and even gave him the keys to the city and to have a special day dedicated to him. Now, what’s the differnece??? I am sure stuff like this happens more than we realize. They are not role models anymore, but money making schemes. Makes me sick.


20 posted on 04/09/2019 9:22:48 AM PDT by Deepeasttx
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But it’s telling that he’s angry at the test and not at the city’s public schools, which he runs, for failing to provide black and Latino children with an education that would make them competitive.

Black and Latino children as a group under-perform statistically everywhere, not just in New York when compared to other groups. Blaming the tests or the schools is stupid, the obvious answers to this riddle are all considered “racist”.

21 posted on 04/09/2019 9:23:10 AM PDT by fireman15
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it’s hard to discern a bright moral line between Harvard’s giving some applicants an unearned point boost (or point penalty) based on race, and Ms. Huffman’s daughter’s allegedly getting a point boost from someone correcting her answers.

It's sorta like the moral difference between a guy holding you up on the street to get money to buy food and the government taking the money from you to give food stamps to the guy.

ML/NJ

22 posted on 04/09/2019 9:26:45 AM PDT by ml/nj
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When evil rises in the world it repeats the same errors, follows the same script, and has the same enemies. It's logical that it would... it has the same author.

We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal...

Where find that all men are not equal, you find the rising tide of evil. That occurs in Islam where infidels are dhimmis, it occurred in Nazi Germany with dehumanizing the Jews, it occurs in all socialist states where some animals are more equal than others, and it is occurring here where only self-described "elites" are fit to govern, celebrity and depravity elevate stature, and babies are an inconvenience.

May God have mercy on our nation.

23 posted on 04/09/2019 9:29:24 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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Breaking news rich people have it easier and have giant advantages in life. Its harder for poor whites/blacks to make it or become doctors etc. Donald Trump John Mccain and George Bush are who they are because of their fathers and OJ would have gone to jail if he couldn’t afford a fancy lawyer

Feels like you are making the class warfare arguements we accuse liberals of


24 posted on 04/09/2019 9:29:30 AM PDT by Nomad577
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Eventually the SAT itself will succumb to charges of being RAAAAAACIST and will fade away into history, like the one-room schoolhouse and the chalk board.


25 posted on 04/09/2019 9:36:05 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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What’s the moral difference between Ms. Huffman’s getting her daughter into college with an SAT score she didn’t earn and Harvard’s institutionally elevating the lower test scores of whites, blacks and Latinos above the higher scores of Asian-Americans?

Absolutely no difference


27 posted on 04/09/2019 9:54:32 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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One of the reasons our nation is going down the $h!tter is because we’re being lead by stupid people with fancy degrees from Ivy League institutions.


32 posted on 04/09/2019 10:05:47 AM PDT by Tzimisce
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“On Monday Ms. Huffman agreed to plead guilty to a single count of conspiracy to commit mail fraud and honest services mail fraud.”

Was the US Postal Service involved?

If no mail, no mail fraud.


34 posted on 04/09/2019 11:06:37 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Parents and student should be aware that only a small percentage of colleges can afford to be highly selective.

If you can do the work and your parents can pay $$$$$, most colleges would be glad to accept an average student.


36 posted on 04/09/2019 11:10:04 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Is the SAT Proctor getting jail time as well.


40 posted on 04/09/2019 11:53:55 AM PDT by pas
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