Posted on 03/08/2019 10:43:17 AM PST by EinNYC
Do you really think a universal God would get so granular?
Why are you putting words in his mouth?
MC NEVER said God was *punishing* anyone. YOU'RE the one assuming that.
He's right thought. The world has shaken it's fist in God's face and kicked Him out of the schools and the government, and this is the result of God letting man have what he wants.
If you're going to kick God out, you'd best prepare for the consequences cause SOMETHING will come in and fill the vacuum.
(I predict soon the teaching profession will be a majority of foreign born instructors. More and more American born teachers will be worn down by the disrespect from students and lack of support from the administrations. These fed up, demoralized instructors will then leave these positions in ten years or much less.)
I agree entirely. For one thing, the demographics and cultural decay we’re undergoing — ironically because of our public schools — will make foreign teachers, who basically hate us and our culture, the politically correct classroom operatives.
And too, this will make home schoolers and small affordable neighborhood private schools form and function as the common sense alternative.
>Our society has passed responsibility for child raising to the schools, and they are, of course, not equipped to do it. (Nor should they be.)<
True, unfortunately. And, parents face zero consequences for terribly negligent parenting.
This is to be expected in a dysfunctional society—it makes dysfunctional parents.
Our school had a pretty set policy for dealing with unruly or disrespectful kids. Dad made a paddle for each teacher (actually we students did in shop class). All paddle punishment was in front of the whole class and another adult had to be present (the embarrassment was more effective than the actual paddling). The number of swats was dictated by the offence. In some extreme cases, if a male student and a male teacher, the student and a male teacher could put the gloves on in the gym. No audience except the Principal as referee. The student had to agree, but no parental consent, nothing else.
This only happened a few times, but Dad had no losses. He never beat-up the student or hit them in the face or kidneys, after a few light punches just a quick jab in the stomach to knock the wind out. Fight over. Then he helped them up and mentioned that we should not repeat this, if you're angry or rebellious just let him or someone know. Couple of those big guys still today tell me he set them straight when they were headed the other way. Of course that could not happen today. Also, the principal and school board knew and trusted my Dad explicitly. Advantages of a small school.
In Japan things are different, or at least they were 25 years ago. A co-worker's young daughter went to Japan as an English teacher as part of her graduate program. During the first days of classes one boy kept interrupting the class by talking to others. She eventually put him in the back facing the corner. That evening she saw a whole group of local Japanese walking toward her cabin and eventually saw they were with the boy she had punished. She thought oh my, they are coming to chastise me for correcting their son, my teaching job is probably over. Turns out the whole extended family brought the boy to apologize to her for his behavior and that it would never happen again. It didn't. I do know that she was a flaming liberal when she left and came back a conservative (to her father's great relief). She said she cheered and cried when she saw the Statue Of Liberty when arriving back. She had no idea until she lived a year outside the USA.
Nah. That 37 was the original number reported by the NY Times. No one else challenged it because after all, it was the TIMES. That number fit the agenda of the reporter and the editor.
"Fake News" didn't start with the Trump Presidency. The Times has been practicing it for decades.
Every community has a schoolboard. Schools are controlled by parents who attend schoolboard meetings. Do parents in NY attend schoolboard meetings?
Yeah you’re right.
Kronkite’s fake news about the Vietnam War was 50 years ago.
When I was a brat, being “tardy” or talking out of turn were considered infractions worthy of torture. For instance, the teacher would draw a circle on the chalkboard, about 3 inches below your nose. You had to half squat and press your nose into the circle, and stay like that, without moving or screaming in pain, for 30 minutes.
One teacher liked to toss dry rice on the floor & make us kneel on it for 30 minutes. Most of us, given a choice of punishments, preferred a couple of whacks from the “board of education.” Over in a few seconds.
Heh heh. As a southerner, I hear ya.
Times were different then. Kids today have no idea. In our Catholic school in the 1970’s, many of the sisters were sweet and nice. But some were very stern, and they doled out some creative punishments, similar to what you described. lol
Point taken...
Those that think teachers have it easy - work 9 months, get paid for 12 - need to give it a shot. I have one family member that teaches early childhood and one that teaches high school. They both have the same problem - kids that get no discipline at home and fear nobody at the school, so are free to disrupt at will with few consequences, with the teacher made the scapegoat. Then throw in the special ed kids who need to be “included” with typical kids - who, because they’re “special” can do no wrong.
So many of the teachers are young kids fresh out of college, their heads filled with mush at ed school, with little to no life experience to fall back on when the mush they were taught fails.
I once thought I would retire relatively young and go to work teaching science or math at a high school. That plan got disrupted when pensions for non-government workers were thrown out the window, and boy am I glad. Teaching would be utter hell today.
Mine do. I'll be damned if children are going to run over me in my own house.
And we taxpayers pay for this. Even middle class high school graduates are woefully uneducated and only semi-literate. What is the point? Knowledge can be gleaned from a cell phone, more than any info our self-taught or tutored greatest American founders ever had access to. Not seeing the need for public education.
Everyone affords cell phones and shoes and rent. Everyone can afford their kid’s education, because there would be charity schools, low budget schools, and fancy schools. Every school should be allowed to choose their students. And refuse anyone on the basis of behavior.
It might take a generation but then you will see that the parents who sacrifice for their kids’ schooling will have functioning productive decent adult kids; the crack-smoking loser parents who let their kids hang in the streets will have kids that are dead or in jail.
And doing a lot of damage before that happens.
We can’t be held hostage and be forced to suffer monsters in schools just because they might be monsters on the streeets.
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