Posted on 01/07/2019 10:54:23 PM PST by ransomnote
Oh I agree - here’s what I posted on the live thread:
I’m not as negative on it as you are. I have to remind myself he was talking to ALL Americans tonight and not just those who spend time on politics and news. Reminded me of when I was a kid and hated the news but still stopped when Nixon/Carter/Reagan got on a special broadcast. I didn’t know exactly what everything was going on, but I knew it was important and my parents would pay attention.
This wasn’t for us - who spend time these issues - this was for all those many many others who just don’t spend time on it. His speech was more toned down, simple and to the point. Couple key points I heard were 1) the heart tugs, 2) blacks/hispanics hurt most by wage/job issues, and 3) rich people build walls to protect those they love.
The dam (meant to spell Dem, but either way works) response was a loser - they tried to demagogue something that wasn’t there to demagogue.
“... a wall is immoral, but ripping a baby out of a womb is just fine.”
Cats...Thank you! Dead on!
Happy birthday, Cletus! Our President spoke to you on your special day!
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I’d like to see those funding routes.
I didn’t watch. Only listened on the radio. So I missed any visual info. Thanks, Cali, for the “angry and frightened” report. Good to know.
My take on the speech and response:
No big surprises. POTUS had a message and delivered it succinctly. I loved the point about the walls around people’s houses. (He was talking about YOU, NP. probably CS, too.)
Q always has mentioned double meanings. Maybe there are also double purposes. I’m wondering if there was a secondary purpose that was to get NP and CS on record with their lame arguments. Or maybe there was some Q team op going on while all the politicians were busy getting ready for and giving speeches.
I just can’t find a good picture to see if I can recognize any
He also used the term “illegal alien”, I think in connection with the murder of Officer Singh.
TRANSCRIPT PELOSI AND SCHUMER
Full remarks by Pelosi, Schumer
Here are the full remarks, as prepared, by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer:
Speaker Pelosi. Good evening. I appreciate the opportunity to speak directly to the American people tonight about how we can end this shutdown and meet the needs of the American people.
Sadly, much of what we have heard from President Trump throughout this senseless shutdown has been full of misinformation and even malice.
The President has chosen fear. We want to start with the facts.
The fact is: On the very first day of this Congress, House Democrats passed Senate Republican legislation to re-open government and fund smart, effective border security solutions.
But the President is rejecting these bipartisan bills which would re-open government - over his obsession with forcing American taxpayers to waste billions of dollars on an expensive and ineffective wall - a wall he always promised Mexico would pay for!
The fact is: President Trump has chosen to hold hostage critical services for the health, safety and well-being of the American people and withhold the paychecks of 800,000 innocent workers across the nation - many of them veterans.
He promised to keep government shutdown for ‘months or years’ - no matter whom it hurts. That’s just plain wrong.
The fact is: We all agree that we need to secure our borders, while honoring our values: we can build the infrastructure and roads at our ports of entry; we can install new technology to scan cars and trucks for drugs coming into our nation; we can hire the personnel we need to facilitate trade and immigration at the border; and we can fund more innovation to detect unauthorized crossings.
The fact is: the women and children at the border are not a security threat, they are a humanitarian challenge - a challenge that President Trump’s own cruel and counterproductive policies have only deepened.
And the fact is: President Trump must stop holding the American people hostage, must stop manufacturing a crisis, and must re-open the government.
Thank you.
Senator Schumer. Thank you, Speaker Pelosi.
My fellow Americans, we address you tonight for one reason only: the President of the United States - having failed to get Mexico to pay for his ineffective, unnecessary border wall, and unable to convince the Congress or the American people to foot the bill - has shut down the government.
American democracy doesn’t work that way. We don’t govern by temper tantrum. No president should pound the table and demand he gets his way or else the government shuts down, hurting millions of Americans who are treated as leverage.
Tonight - and throughout this debate and his presidency - President Trump has appealed to fear, not facts. Division, not unity.
Make no mistake: Democrats and the President both want stronger border security. However, we sharply disagree with the President about the most effective way to do it.
So, how do we untangle this mess?
There is an obvious solution: separate the shutdown from the arguments over border security. There is bipartisan legislation - supported by Democrats and Republicans - to re-open government while allowing debate over border security to continue.
There is no excuse for hurting millions of Americans over a policy difference. Federal workers are about to miss a paycheck. Some families can’t get a mortgage to buy a new home. Farmers and small businesses won’t get loans they desperately need.
Most presidents have used Oval Office addresses for noble purposes. This president just used the backdrop of the Oval Office to manufacture a crisis, stoke fear, and divert attention from the turmoil in his Administration.
My fellow Americans, there is no challenge so great that our nation cannot rise to meet it. We can re-open the government AND continue to work through disagreements about policy. We can secure our border without an expensive, ineffective wall. And we can welcome legal immigrants and refugees without compromising safety and security.
The symbol of America should be the Statue of Liberty, not a thirty-foot wall.
So our suggestion is a simple one: Mr. President: re-open the government and we can work to resolve our differences over border security. But end this shutdown now.
Thank you.
Source:
Trump declares “crisis” at border in prime-time Oval Office address — live updates
Updated on: January 8, 2019 / 9:45 PM / CBS News
Pop up video is CBSN, pause or close it.
Full remarks by Pelosi, Schumer video embed (scroll down). (wouldn’t play for me)
It’s CBS y’all, in the tradition of Don Hewitt and Dan Rather.
He didn’t even mention that part.
I’m wondering if they looked angry and frightened because of what they were worried MIGHT happen. Like an arrest or exposure of their crimes.
It must really suck to be a guilty criminal who knows that the President knows exactly what you’re guilty of. When will the hammer drop? Tonight? Next week? Always watching your back. And front. And sides.
But the rumors that DJT is looking at possible replacements right now makes me wonder if Trump AND Roberts know her potential retirement date is mid March.
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Sensible.
And he kept the message short so they would be more likely to remember those points. Neither Senator engaged in a meaningfull rebuttal. They just whined about the Government being Shut down like most people really care that the poor IRS is not able to more effectively assess their taxes!
ThanQ.
It is time to hand things over to the C-shift. Should be a quiet overnight.
Nite y’all. Starting #62 while blissfully asleep at midnight.
CINC was setting the stage, and with dis-info you saw how rattled the enemy was with their ‘rebuttal’. These stupid @$$holes need to learn to stop calling his ‘bluff’. CINC does not bluff.
Also looked like they messed with the color saturation, on the white house feed he looked normal slightly tanned.
On what CBS played he looked orange.
I can’t post any pics (haven’t spent time to find a website to post saved pics from and then figure out how ) but there was a Chan thread about earthquakes in Alaska, near Mammoth cave, KY; and another state that started with A in conus - Arkansas/Arizona maybe.
All 3 earthquakes were moderate and within a short time of each other from the seismographs posted. Made me think that perhaps we had some coordinated attacks going on.
or afraid of flubbing agreed to lines as part of a deal
“Orange Man Bad!”
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