Posted on 12/15/2018 4:10:34 AM PST by sparklite2
Maison Hullibarger’s father tells the Detroit Free Press that he asked the priest to stop talking during the Dec. 8 funeral Mass. But Jeff Hullibarger says the Rev. Don LaCuesta continued giving a critical sermon at Our Lady of Mount Carmel Church in Temperance.
Hullibarger says some mourners left the church crying.
The archdiocese released a statement Thursday saying it’s sorry that an “unbearable situation was made even more difficult.” The archdiocese says LaCuesta will not preach at funerals “for the foreseeable future.”
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Roman Catholicism and it's adherents sure don't like the light of Truth put on them.
It's a good thing Paul and the original Apostles weren't as thin skinned as today's Roman Catholics.
Is this Catholic DOCTRINE?
Prosperity gospel?
What a GREAT gift: knowledge of the heart of man!
How can I obtain this talent?
Acts 8:18
When Simon saw that the Spirit was given at the laying on of the apostles' hands, he offered them money
HMMMmmm…
Do I REALLY need to post anything; after you've gone and proven your judgementalism in this reply??
Yeah; why not.
Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]
Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.
Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy
Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy
Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]
Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]
Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]
Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.
What a concept!
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>> “Some folks here think that this will NOT happen to SAVED folks...” <<
Only the “First Fruits” have been saved.
The rest of us have to wait until we are “changed” on the Day of Trumpets, as Yeshua clearly stated to Nicodemus in John ch3.
But, “He that endures to the end, the same shall be saved.” (Mat 24)
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You Muslims are all alike, waiting for an ugly virgin.
I keel you; you halfway to beast number getter!
Do NOT insult the Prophet and limit us to just ONE of them!
This distinction you have consistently neglected.
Please do not ignore the contexts provided, plus the many, many other readings in Scripture which firmly promise that all of our thoughts, words, and deeds will be judged --- that is, we will be answerable for them, both the saved and the lost.---
If temporal suffering were unjust, we would have to say that the natural, logical and merited consequences of sin were unjust, and that God is unjust for imposing them. This is obviously a wrong conclusion.
I'm not speaking here of Eternal Damnation or Eternal life, because the latter is total gift and total grace, nothing we could ever pay for, earn or merit.
Yet God is not lying when He says, literally dozens of times, everyone will be recompensed according to their works, even those whose final destiny is Heaven.
His mercy, which is infinite, is shown in that he gives us the grace to repent and atone for sin, in union with Christ who is our only salvation.
I would not mislead anyone into thinking there is no temporal recompense for good or evil if you are a believer. The temporal pains like those of Dismas will be swallowed up in Christ's eternal victory.
You have provided no context. You've pulled passages OUT of context which you do a great deal and then try to read back into them something that isn't there.
Go back and read John...especially 3, 6 and 10.
I'm not speaking here of Eternal Damnation or Eternal life, because the latter is total gift and total grace, nothing we could ever pay for, earn or merit.
You would not know that from discussions or readings with or on Roman Catholicism.
Everything I've read on Roman Catholicism, including Rome's own writings, places an emphasis on gotta do, gotta do, gotta do and as long as the RC is devoted to Mary they hope she will put in a good word for them and then hope they might have salvation.
None of which is supported by the New Testament.
If temporal suffering were unjust, we would have to say that the natural, logical and merited consequences of sin were unjust, and that God is unjust for imposing them. This is obviously a wrong conclusion.
Let me be clear about this:
Once a believer in Christ dies it's either Heaven or Hell....no in between. No layover in purgatory or limbo (if Rome still has limbo).
Your position regarding the "temporal" is saying there is punishment in purgatory....which again neither are Biblical concepts.
Now, are there earthly consequences for our sins? You betcha. If you're caught stealing you may go to jail.
But once you die.....you are no longer under judgment per what Christ told Nicodemus.
1. I don't know that many, or any of the FReepers we're referring to, know what those words were. I don't.
2. If they were reflexively defending the "company," they'd be defending the diocese, and not this parish priest.
There have been at least two threads that contain reports of what the priest said.
Well,according to the left, they were written by an old white guy. Is God Caucasian? Hmmm? Now are we back to angels dancing in the head of a pin? Starting another kegger.
Under Judgment 1: meaning under God's wrath, headed for hell, no hope, no exit; vs. Under Judgment II meaning glory-bound, but still answerable for your own thoughts, words and deeds. ALL of them.
"But I say to you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment."
(Matthew 12:36)
Dismas exemplifies Judgment II. Dismas said that his crucifixion was a just punishment, it was due to him because of his sins. Jesus apparently agreed, because he did not deny what Dismas said, AND he did not get him down from the cross. Dismas, though saved, still had to suffer what was due to him because of his sins.
Dismas took up his cross.
So do we all. Or else, where's the justice? Jesus said we cannot be His disciples unless we take up our cross.
Think again of God's mercy, which is enacted through His justice; and His justice, which is enacted through His mercy. In God, justice and mercy are not opposites or antagonists.
Mercy and truth have met each other:
justice and peace have kissed.
Psalm 85:10
It is impossible that they should be antagonists: that mercy would annihilate justice, as if it were a flawed thing. Justice is not a mean or flawed or inferior thing. It is the foundation of His throne.
Facing the reality that all of us will receive recompense from God for our sins, we accept His justice. This makes the mercy all the greater because in the end it totally triumphs. It "superabounds".
"And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds."God's mercy and justice work together and triumph totally: In His justice, God recognizes our sin and the need of its reparation, while, in His mercy, He showers upon us the grace and the power to repent and to make reparation.
Psalm 62:12"You know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as your reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving. Whoever does wrong will be repaid for his wrong, and there is no favoritism. Colossians 3:24-25
"And loving-kindness is Yours, O Lord, for You recompense a man according to his work."
Proverbs 24:12
Matthew 16:24Think of Dismas again.
Then Jesus said to His disciples, "If anyone wants to come with Me, he must deny himself, take up his cross, and follow Me."
He bears the the cross --- as Jesus said we must do, or we cannot be His disciples -- and then he is borne up to Heaven in Jesus' arms, in triumph! As we shall do!
May Christ, our matchless Savior, be glorified forever!
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